Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 9:49:00 AM (view original):
There are plenty of people pointing out the flaws in the hall of fame voting. No need for me to pile on.

Be this guy:

Posted by tecwrg on 12/29/2014 9:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 9:49:00 AM (view original):
There are plenty of people pointing out the flaws in the hall of fame voting. No need for me to pile on.

Yeah, but you seem to have some special insight since you somehow know for a fact that 96.8% of the voters completely disregarded a "borderline candidate".

Take some ownership.  Be the guy who fixes the HOF, since nobody else is able to do it.  You'll be the hero of the baseball world.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 10:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 12/29/2014 9:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 9:49:00 AM (view original):
There are plenty of people pointing out the flaws in the hall of fame voting. No need for me to pile on.

Yeah, but you seem to have some special insight since you somehow know for a fact that 96.8% of the voters completely disregarded a "borderline candidate".

Take some ownership.  Be the guy who fixes the HOF, since nobody else is able to do it.  You'll be the hero of the baseball world.

Did I say I know for a fact?

You keep going back to it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 10:21:00 AM (view original):
I'm pretty sure I'm responding directly to questions. What else would you recommend?

Posted by tecwrg on 12/29/2014 10:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/29/2014 10:21:00 AM (view original):
I'm pretty sure I'm responding directly to questions. What else would you recommend?

STFU is a good option.

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/29/2014 6:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 12/28/2014 11:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/28/2014 10:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 12/28/2014 9:45:00 PM (view original):
Bah, the 3.2% could just as easily be that 96.8% think there are at least ten better candidates on the ballot... which ISN'T the same as "he doesn't deserve to be in the HOF"

Simple math sez "bullshit".

I figured it out earlier but got busy doing something else.  There were 560ish voters.   They voted for 3750ish players.   It's less than 7 players per ballot.    Assume 18 of them voted for 10 and Lofton was on each ballot.    Yeah, they said "He's not a HOFer."   No doubt. 

Not necessarily.  There are still voters that like to play games with "I'll only vote for the guys I THINK will get in", and others who automatically avoid "first timers" and "suspected PED users", still others who think player A should get in before player B.  I'm pretty sure more than 3.2% think Lofton deserves to get into the HOF eventually, just NOT RIGHT NOW for some of them.

So you believe the voters don't understand the process?    That, if a player doesn't receive x-amount of votes, he will be dropped from the ballot making "just not right now" irrelevant?

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/29/2014 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Well, I know you're not implying that Lofton was left hanging in the wind because 380 voters were trying to game the system instead of casting a vote for him.