Posted by MikeT23 on 5/27/2015 2:14:00 PM (view original):
I managed to get my rebuild done in two seasons and didn't even have to lose 100 once.

18	selmer	ML	70-92	.432	3rd	No	No
19	selmer	ML	79-83	.488	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
20	selmer	ML	75-87	.463	3rd	No	No
21	MikeT23	ML	72-90	.444	4th	No	No
22	MikeT23	ML	89-73	.549	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
23	MikeT23	ML	75-87	.463	3rd	No	No
24	MikeT23	ML	85-77	.525	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
25	MikeT23	ML	90-72	.556	1st	No	Yes	yes	no	no
26	MikeT23	ML	84-78	.519	2nd	No	No
27	MikeT23	ML	81-81	.500	3rd	No	No
28	MikeT23	ML	93-69	.574	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	yes
29	MikeT23	ML	88-74	.543	2nd	Yes	No	no	no	no
30	MikeT23	ML	97-65	.599	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	yes
31	MikeT23	ML	86-76	.531	3rd	No	No
32	MikeT23	ML	65-97	.401	4th	No	No
33	MikeT23	ML	70-92	.432	4th	No	No
34	MikeT23	ML	83-79	.512	2nd	Yes	No	no	no	no
35	MikeT23	ML	89-73	.549	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
36	MikeT23	ML	80-82	.494	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no

Yes, but were you one of the youngest teams after the rebuild?  Did your rookie and Low A teams make the playoffs?

Posted by psychoch on 5/27/2015 4:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/27/2015 2:14:00 PM (view original):
I managed to get my rebuild done in two seasons and didn't even have to lose 100 once.

18	selmer	ML	70-92	.432	3rd	No	No
19	selmer	ML	79-83	.488	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
20	selmer	ML	75-87	.463	3rd	No	No
21	MikeT23	ML	72-90	.444	4th	No	No
22	MikeT23	ML	89-73	.549	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
23	MikeT23	ML	75-87	.463	3rd	No	No
24	MikeT23	ML	85-77	.525	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
25	MikeT23	ML	90-72	.556	1st	No	Yes	yes	no	no
26	MikeT23	ML	84-78	.519	2nd	No	No
27	MikeT23	ML	81-81	.500	3rd	No	No
28	MikeT23	ML	93-69	.574	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	yes
29	MikeT23	ML	88-74	.543	2nd	Yes	No	no	no	no
30	MikeT23	ML	97-65	.599	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	yes
31	MikeT23	ML	86-76	.531	3rd	No	No
32	MikeT23	ML	65-97	.401	4th	No	No
33	MikeT23	ML	70-92	.432	4th	No	No
34	MikeT23	ML	83-79	.512	2nd	Yes	No	no	no	no
35	MikeT23	ML	89-73	.549	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
36	MikeT23	ML	80-82	.494	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no

Yes, but were you one of the youngest teams after the rebuild?  Did your rookie and Low A teams make the playoffs?

It isn't REALLY a rebuild unless you are only spending less than 50M on payroll and go on to win 120 for the next 10 seasons.

Oh, my bad.   I thought dropping 97 and 92 in consecutive seasons two seasons removed from winning a WS then getting back in the playoffs would be considered a rebuild. 

FWIW, during my down time, I only acquired 3 future BL players. 
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Domingo Manuel was a 24m IFA.   Gave me 162 innings this year.
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Dorssys Prieto was a #3 pick.  He'll be called up next season but I'm not sure where he'll play.  I was hoping 2B or CF and that doesn't look like it's happening.
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Kirt Keller was a #7 pick.  If my 1B declines his option, he's coming up next year also.  Otherwise, he's in AAA for the season.   Probably.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/27/2015 2:11:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, a good world doesn't put up with this:

28	sjurat	ML	59-103	.364	4th	No	No
29	sjurat	ML	53-109	.327	3rd	No	No
30	sjurat	ML	48-114	.296	4th	No	No
31	sjurat	ML	57-105	.352	4th	No	No

I have no interest in perpetual 100+ game losers being in my world. 

There wasn't 1 solid MLer in the system when I took over - what would have been better? Be saddled with a $120-125m payroll with never a chance to reemerge?

It not like I'm stocking other teams with great guys - or running a ghost team for my real team.

This team didn't have a single solid BL player either. 

1	halo23	ML	61-101	.377	4th	No	No
2	shesaid	ML	74-88	.457	3rd	No	No
3	shesaid	ML	78-84	.481	4th	No	No
4	RubeRant	ML	72-90	.444	4th	No	No
5	kingdean	ML	65-97	.401	4th	No	No
6	MikeT23	ML	75-87	.463	4th	No	No
7	MikeT23	ML	89-73	.549	3rd	No	No
8	MikeT23	ML	91-71	.562	2nd	No	No
9	MikeT23	ML	101-61	.623	2nd	Yes	No	no	no	no
10	MikeT23	ML	109-53	.673	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	yes
11	MikeT23	ML	107-55	.660	1st	No	Yes	yes	yes	no
12	MikeT23	ML	101-61	.623	1st	No	Yes	yes	no	no
13	MikeT23	ML	113-49	.698	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
14	MikeT23	ML	112-50	.691	1st	No	Yes	no	no	no
15	MikeT23	ML	90-72	.556	2nd	Yes	No	yes	no	no

Yet I managed to turn it around quickly without losing a hundred games even once.   Weird, huh?

that is weird

I know, right?

This is actually a better thread on how to succeed without tanking it up for a full year.   http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=150310&page=1

Quote post by MikeT23 on 11/12/2009 6:25:00 PM:

The thing is, if you look at the IFAs sjurat's been signing, he's not even tanking well.  He seems to be using a quantity instead of quality approach, and after four years, you'd be hard pressed to find a single player he's signed that would be even a backup on a contending team, much less a cornerstone of a rebuild.  

Posted by psychoch on 5/28/2015 9:59:00 AM (view original):
The thing is, if you look at the IFAs sjurat's been signing, he's not even tanking well.  He seems to be using a quantity instead of quality approach, and after four years, you'd be hard pressed to find a single player he's signed that would be even a backup on a contending team, much less a cornerstone of a rebuild.  

Yeah, he doesn't really have a strong grasp of the game.

He also posted this in defense of him "getting his tank on":

Things take time - and if you don't want the same teams winning every season - owners will need to take chances (lose more games) to position for greater upside in the future.

That pretty much told me the guy didn't know what he was doing at all.