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The guys behind EM weren't very adept at scoring him. 27.5% of the time. Didn't find anyone else less than 30.
So what? Martinez isn't clairvoyant. He doesn't know ahead of time if this will be one if the 27% or one of the 73%. Short of a home run, all he can do is get on base and hope for the best. Getting on base, with a hit or a walk, helps the team.
Are you saying he's so dumb that he didn't realize he was ending a lot of innings standing on a bag?
As opposed to ending them walking back to the dugout after making an out?
You. Are. Retarded.
Why does he have to walk or make an out? Can't he hit at all?
Dumb. *******. ***.
Sure. Roughly 30% of the time it will be a hit. Want to guess where he will be standing after most of those hits? First base, the exact same place he winds up after a walk.
What the next hitter does or doesn't do is irrelevant when evaluating Martinez's performance.
Do runners score from second or third (assuming no force) on a walk? Do they go from first to third on a walk?
With runners on base, is "a walk's as good as a hit" always true?
Jesus Christ.
In almost all situations, adding base runners is a good thing, even if you aren't scoring immediately.
Martinez had roughly 1200 non intentional walks in his career. If he went to the plate trying to avoid a walk he's trading 1200 walks for about 300 hits. That's a terrible deal.
Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Except that the wall is smarter than you since it doesn't respond.
"In almost all situations, adding base runners is a good thing, even if you aren't scoring immediately."
So there are some situations when "adding base runners" is NOT necessarily a good thing? That's kind of sounds like the point I've been making. EM passively accepting a walk so that the lesser guy behind him can make the third (and game-ending) out doesn't sound like good baseball.
Thanks for finally validating that. Are we done now?
You see the rhetorical jump you just made there?
There are rare situations where you might want a hitter to avoid a walk and just put the ball in play. No one is arguing this.
Then the jump to Martinez and the idea that unlike every other great hitter, his high OBP is somehow a bad thing. This is idea is dumb. Very, very dumb. Even for you.