badluck and Miggy, two of a kind.    Both getting bad hops that no one has seen before or since. 

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Here's a question.  Have you or your hero ever been hit in the face with a groundball?

Sort of. I was in center and a base hit two hopped and caught a piece of grab grass while I was charging it. It cut me right on my cheek bone but didn't break anything.

But I've played plenty of third and short and seen plenty of bad hops. I've never, in over 20 years of playing high level baseball, taken an infield grounder to the face.

Do you know what that means relative Cabrera getting hit in the face?

Jack ****.

So you got hit in the face on a grounder in the OF?

Define "high level".

Because I'm calling bullshit. 

Southern California, large high school, starting varsity player when that happened.

I played travel ball starting when I was 11.

I played (not starting) one year as a walk on at a DII college, we made the CCAA playoffs that year.

If you were hit in the face with a groundball in the OF, you were overmatched.    Plain and simple. 

Or you're simply lying about your magnificent ability.    Internet and all.

Also, over matched by what, exactly? The ball? The grass? A fast moving line drive to the outfield could occur in just about any level of play. 

I'm now as confused as burnsy. Why is it that you have such a hard time understanding that a) bad hops happen and b) sometimes they happen in a way that doesn't give you enough time to get out of the way?

You're clinging to this like we're talking about the government paying off the deficit with treasury bonds.

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Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2014 4:12:00 PM (view original):
Here's a question.  Have you or your hero ever been hit in the face with a groundball?

Chin, yes.  I don't know who my "hero" is, so I don't know.

I've also never had a situation where a ball hit that hard at me, while playing as close to the batter as Miggy was, hit the ground in such a way where it came directly at my eye.  So it's irrelevant.

Would you like to know why you were hit in the chin with a ball?   Because they were saggy!!!!!


Because, when it took a bad hop, you're natural reaction was to move your ******* face out of the way.   Survival instinct.  Ball coming at your face, you see it, you can't catch it, you can't get out of the way so you naturally choose the only available option:   Lift your head up to avoid getting hit in the face.   People naturally avoid getting hit in the face if they can. 

"If they can" - yes.

In the same way a pitcher can't move his face out of the way of a line drive, it's possible that a ball, moving fast enough, will bounce a handful of feet in front of you in such a way that you can't react in time to move your face out of the way, even if you're a professional athlete.  I'm confused why you find that impossible to understand.

Are they discussing mandatory headgear for pitchers?   Why yes, they are.

Are they discussing mandatory facegear for infielders?  Why no, they aren't.

You know why? 

The scenario where a pitcher will get hit in the face, because he can't react in time, happens significantly more often than an infielder.  Also, the ball is travelling at a much higher speed and is much more dangerous.

So, essentially, a MLB pitcher gets hit in the head once, twice a year in a completely different type of situation.

And very few, at any level, get hit in the face by a grounder.   

OK then.

So, essentially, a MLB pitcher gets hit in the head once, twice a year in a completely different type of situation.

And very few, at any level, get hit in the face by a grounder.   

I'm actually not sure Mike's played the infield in baseball before.  That would explain a lot.  Well, maybe not a lot.  But some.

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Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2014 4:12:00 PM (view original):
Here's a question.  Have you or your hero ever been hit in the face with a groundball?

Sort of. I was in center and a base hit two hopped and caught a piece of grab grass while I was charging it. It cut me right on my cheek bone but didn't break anything.

But I've played plenty of third and short and seen plenty of bad hops. I've never, in over 20 years of playing high level baseball, taken an infield grounder to the face.

Do you know what that means relative Cabrera getting hit in the face?

Jack ****.

So you got hit in the face on a grounder in the OF?

Define "high level".

Because I'm calling bullshit. 

Southern California, large high school, starting varsity player when that happened.

I played travel ball starting when I was 11.

I played (not starting) one year as a walk on at a DII college, we made the CCAA playoffs that year.

If you were hit in the face with a groundball in the OF, you were overmatched.    Plain and simple. 

Or you're simply lying about your magnificent ability.    Internet and all.

Also, over matched by what, exactly? The ball? The grass? A fast moving line drive to the outfield could occur in just about any level of play. 

I'm now as confused as burnsy. Why is it that you have such a hard time understanding that a) bad hops happen and b) sometimes they happen in a way that doesn't give you enough time to get out of the way?

You're clinging to this like we're talking about the government paying off the deficit with treasury bonds.

Overmatched by the competition, obviously.    200 feet away and you can't get your face out of the way of a groundball.    That's ******* ridiculous.

Or you're a liar.     Whatever.

Posted by burnsy483 on 3/25/2014 4:41:00 PM (view original):
I'm actually not sure Mike's played the infield in baseball before.  That would explain a lot.  Well, maybe not a lot.  But some.

I've played on much shittier fields than Miggy.    Stare at your screen.   Turn your head or pull it up quickly.   How long did that take?     People just don't get hit square in the face.     But it's really not relevant what you, I or anyone else can do with regards to avoiding projectiles to the face.    Miggy couldn't do it. 

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Posted by burnsy483 on 3/25/2014 4:41:00 PM (view original):
I'm actually not sure Mike's played the infield in baseball before.  That would explain a lot.  Well, maybe not a lot.  But some.

I've played on much shittier fields than Miggy.    Stare at your screen.   Turn your head or pull it up quickly.   How long did that take?     People just don't get hit square in the face.     But it's really not relevant what you, I or anyone else can do with regards to avoiding projectiles to the face.    Miggy couldn't do it. 

Well, I assume badluck wouldn't have been able to do since he was hit in the face by a grounder IN THE OUTFIELD.

****** little leaguers who are only out there because mommy makes them don't let that happen.

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Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2014 4:12:00 PM (view original):
Here's a question.  Have you or your hero ever been hit in the face with a groundball?

Sort of. I was in center and a base hit two hopped and caught a piece of grab grass while I was charging it. It cut me right on my cheek bone but didn't break anything.

But I've played plenty of third and short and seen plenty of bad hops. I've never, in over 20 years of playing high level baseball, taken an infield grounder to the face.

Do you know what that means relative Cabrera getting hit in the face?

Jack ****.

So you got hit in the face on a grounder in the OF?

Define "high level".

Because I'm calling bullshit. 

Southern California, large high school, starting varsity player when that happened.

I played travel ball starting when I was 11.

I played (not starting) one year as a walk on at a DII college, we made the CCAA playoffs that year.

If you were hit in the face with a groundball in the OF, you were overmatched.    Plain and simple. 

Or you're simply lying about your magnificent ability.    Internet and all.

Also, over matched by what, exactly? The ball? The grass? A fast moving line drive to the outfield could occur in just about any level of play. 

I'm now as confused as burnsy. Why is it that you have such a hard time understanding that a) bad hops happen and b) sometimes they happen in a way that doesn't give you enough time to get out of the way?

You're clinging to this like we're talking about the government paying off the deficit with treasury bonds.

Overmatched by the competition, obviously.    200 feet away and you can't get your face out of the way of a groundball.    That's ******* ridiculous.

Or you're a liar.     Whatever.

You know it wasn't actually a ground ball, right? Or did you not read my first post.

It was a liner that two hopped, caught a chuck of grass as I was charging it, and hit me in the face. Hard enough to daze me and cut my cheek. Not hard enough to break anything.

And I'm not sure what the level of competition has to do with it. A hard liner to the outfield could be hit at just about any level. JV, pony ball, etc.

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Posted by burnsy483 on 3/25/2014 4:41:00 PM (view original):
I'm actually not sure Mike's played the infield in baseball before.  That would explain a lot.  Well, maybe not a lot.  But some.

I've played on much shittier fields than Miggy.    Stare at your screen.   Turn your head or pull it up quickly.   How long did that take?     People just don't get hit square in the face.     But it's really not relevant what you, I or anyone else can do with regards to avoiding projectiles to the face.    Miggy couldn't do it. 

How long did it take? Longer than necessary if I was in Miggy's position and had to realize that a ball was approaching my face at that fast of a speed.  

Is this you? Normal people can't react/move this fast.  Even professional athletes.

Again:

I'm now as confused as burnsy. Why is it that you have such a hard time understanding that a) bad hops happen and b) sometimes they happen in a way that doesn't give you enough time to get out of the way?

You're clinging to this like we're talking about the government paying off the deficit with treasury bonds.

You don't have to get out of the way.  You have to move your face.

Tell us how you got hit in the FACE in the OUTFIELD at your "high level" baseball game again.   Seems hard to do.

I'll post some tee-ball players that have managed to avoid that from happening.   Wanna talk exit speeds and how long it takes a ball to cover 60 ft vs 90 ft?   It's math so I'll understand if you decline.

Maybe you'd be better served by letting the ball stop rolling then picking it up.    Much safer for you.

I don't want to be mean but Corky said they'd have to cut you from the team if that happened in his league.

Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2014 6:54:00 PM (view original):
You don't have to get out of the way.  You have to move your face.

Tell us how you got hit in the FACE in the OUTFIELD at your "high level" baseball game again.   Seems hard to do.

I'll post some tee-ball players that have managed to avoid that from happening.   Wanna talk exit speeds and how long it takes a ball to cover 60 ft vs 90 ft?   It's math so I'll understand if you decline.

You act like I should be embarrassed. I'm not. The list of bad plays and mistakes I've made on a baseball field is a mile long. I've been hit in the face, overthrown the first baseman by a mile, been picked off second, dropped pop flies, struck out swinging on hanging curveballs. **** happens when you play baseball and, even you're among the world's most gifted, which I'm not, you make a lot of mistakes.

Anyone who insists otherwise plays softball once a week trying to make up for their career ending after they got cut from JV.

Hey look, Gordon Beckham got hit in the face after a bad bounce on a throw.

http://www.baseballnation.com/2011/5/27/2335812/gordon-beckham-injures-face-on-bad-bounce/in/1958187



It was on turf. Didn't hit the seem. It just bounced higher than he expected.

See?

**** happens.