Posted by tecwrg on 8/5/2015 8:32:00 PM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2015 3:24:00 PM (view original):FIP is dumb as ****.I disagree. If you only look at DIP stats you aren't getting a complete picture, but it's definitely useful in some cases. The idea that major league pitchers have little to no control over what balls in play become hits and what balls in play become outs is pretty easy to see. FIP is the more retarded cousin of the only slightly less retarded BABIP.
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2015 3:24:00 PM (view original):FIP is dumb as ****.I disagree. If you only look at DIP stats you aren't getting a complete picture, but it's definitely useful in some cases. The idea that major league pitchers have little to no control over what balls in play become hits and what balls in play become outs is pretty easy to see.
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2015 3:24:00 PM (view original):FIP is dumb as ****.
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/5/2015 8:37:00 PM (view original):Posted by tecwrg on 8/5/2015 8:32:00 PM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2015 3:24:00 PM (view original):FIP is dumb as ****.I disagree. If you only look at DIP stats you aren't getting a complete picture, but it's definitely useful in some cases. The idea that major league pitchers have little to no control over what balls in play become hits and what balls in play become outs is pretty easy to see. FIP is the more retarded cousin of the only slightly less retarded BABIP.Who was the major FIP touter before BL showed up? I forget who his alias was. Because, as I recall, BL said "I never said FIP was a good stat." Until today.
Had to look it up.
BL joined after jrd disappeared. Weird, huh?
Posted by d_rock97 on 8/5/2015 10:24:00 PM (view original):Who is BL? And I do like some of the advanced metrics. I just DESPISE the win probability stats. 10-9 vs 2-1.
Posted by tecwrg on 8/6/2015 7:14:00 AM (view original):Posted by d_rock97 on 8/5/2015 10:24:00 PM (view original):Who is BL? And I do like some of the advanced metrics. I just DESPISE the win probability stats. 10-9 vs 2-1.BL is bad_luck. He's the guy in these threads who is smarter than everybody else. He's also the ultimate arbiter of what people should think and how they should feel.
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 8:34:00 PM (view original):??? What's retarded about BABIP?
Posted by bad_luck on 8/6/2015 9:13:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 8:34:00 PM (view original):??? What's retarded about BABIP?Tec???
Posted by tecwrg on 8/6/2015 9:19:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 8/6/2015 9:13:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2015 8:34:00 PM (view original):??? What's retarded about BABIP?Tec???Already discussed in other threads. Look it up.
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/6/2015 9:23:00 AM (view original):But this thread can be 17 pages by this afternoon if you make the same point over and over again with BL asking the same question over and over again. Ain't that fun no more?
Posted by sjh0825 on 8/13/2015 8:26:00 AM (view original):wow. what intellectual debates. Movin on.
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