Posted by stinenavy on 8/22/2013 2:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/22/2013 1:06:00 PM (view original):Being an elite defender and baserunner for a decade would be quite valuable in your book, right?
Posted by tecwrg on 8/22/2013 1:00:00 PM (view original):I agree. The raw hits and high average are cool and all, but there really isn't much else there, and I'm a big hall guy.
If the general consensus is that 500 home runs is no longer an "automatic" lock for the HOF, should we also acknowledge that 3000 hits (primarily singles) should not be an automatic lock for the HOF either.
Ichiro = not a HOFer.
Absolutely. How many great defensive corner outfielders stole 350 bases and had an OPS+ of 110 or better?
I'm guessing, depending on how you classify great defensive corner outfielder, there's probably a few
If you put Ichiro in, you probably have to put in guys like Bobby Abreu and Carlos Beltran. And, obviously, Tim Raines.