Posted by MikeT23 on 8/22/2013 2:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/22/2013 2:42:00 PM (view original):I do. Ruth was 155 or so on his career. I think ARod is the active highest about 30 points behind him. So, if I kept rolling Ruth's bones out on the field, he'd be more valuable than ARod for how long?
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/22/2013 2:40:00 PM (view original):You do realize that a dead body would have a negative WAR, right? Or did you not know that? If Ruth were able to come back and play zero WAR ball for 100 more years, he wouldn't lose value.
Posted by bad_luck on 8/22/2013 2:33:00 PM (view original):So I could dig up Babe Ruth, throw his bones on the field for another 5 years and he'd still be more valuable than pretty much anyone for his career? That seems retarded.
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/22/2013 2:29:00 PM (view original):Yeah, Raines. You can't bring value if you aren't there.
LOL. In the all important WAR category, Raines and Lofton were 69 in 23 and 17 seasons, respectively. Ichiro is 59 in 13. I don't even need a calculator to know who's brought more value to their teams.
Raines added 69 wins above replacement to his teams.
Ichiro added 59 wins above replacement to his teams.
Raines was more valuable.
Raines added 3 per season.
Ichiro added almost 4.
Do you not understand the meaning of "value"?
I do, but I'm thinking you don't.
We're evaluating complete careers, not present day value.
Raines, over his entire career was more valuable than Ichiro has been over his entire career.
Ruth's career was more valuable than Arod's. Even if Ruth comes back and plays zero WAR baseball for 100 years. You don't prorate it per year, especially when you're dealing with 1) an active player who hasn't completed his decline and 2) a special case who dropped into major league baseball at his absolute prime.