What about Ichiro? I think Mike has said he's not sure about Ichiro but do most think he should be in? I know his defense helps and he'll get credit for his impact as an import from Japan, but voters are all going to cite his batting average and hit totals while ignoring players that got on base more often and also had more extra base hits (like Lofton and Raines), even those that also had great speed (also Lofton and Raines) or great defense. Without intentional walks, Ichiro's career OBP will probably finish below .350. Are infield singles that much better than walks or is it, in fact, his defense that makes the difference?