Posted by Got_Worms on 11/23/2013 1:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mlent on 11/23/2013 1:41:00 PM (view original):You don't think Trevor Hoffman is a first ballot HOFer???
Posted by Got_Worms on 11/23/2013 3:08:00 AM (view original):Actually Lee smith belongs in the Hall of Fame, (if you allow relievers, remember most relievers are failed starters and there are no punters in the football hall of fame)
The only one in that group that just doesn't pass the smell test for me is Lee Smith. Granted he was the all-time saves leader when he retired, but is now 3rd to Rivera & Hoffman (both 1st ballot HOFers BTW), and John Franco is 4th. That says a lot, although Billy Wagner is 5th on that list, & I feel he's a HOFer.
he was as good as Sutter,Gossage and Eck. and he wasn't a failed starter like Goose and Eck.
Of the current 1 inning save specialists only Mariano belongs.
I don't think Hoffman belongs at all he gave up 100 hr's. I have a low opinion of the 1 inning specialist, none of them belong with one exception and I am not a Yankee
Fan, If Kent Tekulve was born 20 years later we would be talking about him, he pitched 400 more Ip than Hoffman and gave up about 25 less hr's.