Posted by Jtpsops on 2/5/2013 6:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 2/5/2013 3:48:00 PM (view original):
That's exactly the same argument that he used in his defense of his "it's equally likely that the earth is only 10,000 years old as it is likely that it is 4.5 billion years old" theory.

Basically, anybody who believed in the older earth theory was a "sheep" who blindly followed the mainstream opinion, who were unable to think critically for themselves.  Only he was open minded enough to look at the evidence for a younger earth (none of which he was able to produce) and accept it as just as likely.

I don't engage evolutionists anymore because it's stupid. I won't sway them, they won't sway me. But don't act like there's more proof of your position than mine. There is as much scientific "proof" for creationism as there is for evolution. Science can be made to say whatever man wants it to say. The fact is, all of history could have taken place in the last 10,000 years. Or it could have happened painstakingly slowly over billions. No one really knows for sure.

All I will say is that to call believing in creationism and a grand design foolish, while believing that the world originated out of nowhere, followed by a giant explosion, and single-celled organisms evolving into a million different species is hypocrisy at its best.

The flaw in your thinking is that "created" automatically means created from new. If God has the power to create the universe, he has the power to create it at an advanced stage, no?

I'm in an HBD world entering its 11th season. I have a player who's played 14 ML seasons. Therefore, by your logic, the world is actually in its 14th season, since I can "prove" one of the players has been playing for 14 years.

Posted by Jtpsops on 2/5/2013 10:16:00 PM (view original):

The flaw in your thinking is that "created" automatically means created from new. If God has the power to create the universe, he has the power to create it at an advanced stage, no?

I'm in an HBD world entering its 11th season. I have a player who's played 14 ML seasons. Therefore, by your logic, the world is actually in its 14th season, since I can "prove" one of the players has been playing for 14 years.

Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2013 10:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jtpsops on 2/5/2013 10:16:00 PM (view original):

The flaw in your thinking is that "created" automatically means created from new. If God has the power to create the universe, he has the power to create it at an advanced stage, no?

I'm in an HBD world entering its 11th season. I have a player who's played 14 ML seasons. Therefore, by your logic, the world is actually in its 14th season, since I can "prove" one of the players has been playing for 14 years.

So that's your proof? That maybe god just made the world with really old rocks? Sure, bud.

Posted by Jtpsops on 2/5/2013 10:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2013 10:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jtpsops on 2/5/2013 10:16:00 PM (view original):

The flaw in your thinking is that "created" automatically means created from new. If God has the power to create the universe, he has the power to create it at an advanced stage, no?

I'm in an HBD world entering its 11th season. I have a player who's played 14 ML seasons. Therefore, by your logic, the world is actually in its 14th season, since I can "prove" one of the players has been playing for 14 years.

So that's your proof? That maybe god just made the world with really old rocks? Sure, bud.

Let's try this a different way. If you were able to clone a 40 year old man, would the clone be 40 years old, or zero years old?

Technically, it would be zero years old, even though you'd hoot and holler and point out all the "proof" that he was in fact 40. And your observations wouldn't be innacurate - he'd have the facial hair of a 40 year old, the thinning hair of a 40 year old, the gut of a 40 year old, etc, etc, etc.

Except he still wouldn't be 40 years old.

I'm not God - never have been never will be. But what do you think is more plausible: God saying a) "I'll just make this primordial soup here and watch my creation develop over billions of years, or b) "wait, I'm God - I'll just make the earth and all these creatures in their evolved state."

As I said, I'm not trying to convince you to switch viewpoints. It won't happen. But to act like I'm a fool for what I believe, while spouting off that there is indisputable evidence to back your position is laughable.