90M Theme Analysis Topic

Here is a breakdown of which franchises were selected, by owner...

Rank Owner_____ League Franchise
1 brianjw 3-A 1902-1926 New York Giants
2 alleyviper 3-C 1900-1924 New York Giants
3 discodemo 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
4 tjefferson 3-D 1907-1931 Cleveland Indians
5 dougpalm 3-C 1908-1932 Philadelphia Athletics
6 schwarze 3-B 1905-1929 Boston Red Sox
7 mildnhazy 3-D 1906-1930 New York Giants
8 buddhagamer 3-D 1905-1929 Chicago White Sox
9 Contracted 3-A 1905-1929 Chicago Cubs
10 ybjsports 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
11 mensu1954 3-C 1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals
12 bigmc 3-A 1909-1933 New York Giants
13 shaybee 3-C 1902-1926 New York Giants
14 profcake 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
15 bighooze 3-C 1965-1989 Los Angeles Dodgers
16 ryan_horner 3-A 1910-1934 New York Giants
17 jbohrman 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
18 rbow923 3-A 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs
19 bardin 3-B 1910-1934 New York Giants
20 yankeeso7 3-A 1904-1928 Pittsburgh Pirates
21 pedrocerrano 3-B 1898-1922 Pittsburgh Pirates
22 jfranco77 3-C 1906-1930 St. Louis Cardinals
23 wetwillytwo 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
24 crystalao 3-D 1959-1983 Los Angeles Dodgers
25 cubbies84 3-C 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs
26 batandball 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
27 newarkwilder 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
28 cmolli 3-D 1903-1927 Chicago White Sox
29 The Taint 3-B 1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals
30 mpitt76 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
31 calhoop 3-D 1988-2012 Boston Red Sox
32 odalisgagne 3-A 1976-2000 St. Louis Cardinals
33 tulsaslide 3-A 1968-1992 Oakland Athletics
34 contrarian23 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
35 jjgreen14 3-A 1973-1997 Montreal Expos
36 elonsmitty 3-D 1969-1993 Oakland Athletics
37 cstrohmier 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
38 mllama54 3-A 1980-2004 Oakland Athletics
39 slainte 3-C 1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals
40 besterateam 3-D 1901-1925 Chicago White Sox
41 Relkcirts 3-D 1908-1932 New York Giants
42 njbigwig 3-C 1910-1934 Chicago White Sox
43 ejstockman 3-C 1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals
44 markeking 3-A 1907-1931 New York Giants
45 hacker7 3-B 1905-1929 Philadelphia Athletics
46 Donburgh 3-A 1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates
47 justinlee_24 3-B 1902-1926 Chicago White Sox
48 national 3-C 1905-1929 Chicago Cubs
49 daronb 3-D 1968-1992 St. Louis Cardinals
50 koyunlu 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians
51 marlowe 3-C 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs
52 blackmink18 3-D 1979-2003 Cincinnati Reds
53 fooolishfool 3-A 1984-2008 New York Mets
54 sford 3-A 1919-1943 New York Yankees
55 footballmm11 3-B 1951-1975 Brooklyn Dodgers
56 beauchamp 3-A 1904-1928 Chicago White Sox
57 rmdriskill 3-C 1983-2007 New York Mets
58 oskies 3-D 1952-1976 Brooklyn Dodgers
59 dlchow 3-B 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs
60 kyleb63 3-D 1904-1928 Chicago Cubs
61 devomac 3-B 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs
62 halo23 3-D 1986-2010 New York Yankees
63 2chair 3-D 1988-2012 Atlanta Braves
64 Jtpsops 3-C 1970-1994 Oakland Athletics
65 trd3 3-B 1975-1999 New York Yankees
66 gorbyruss 3-A 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs
67 ncih 3-A 1981-2005 Montreal Expos
68 toddcommish 3-C 1979-2003 Kansas City Royals
69 Chisock 3-B 1932-1956 New York Yankees
70 shysters3 3-C 1954-1978 Brooklyn Dodgers
71 Jdh34 3-A 1960-1984 Cincinnati Reds
72 thejuice6 3-A 1910-1934 New York Giants
73 just4me 3-A 1892-1916 Pittsburgh Pirates
74 DarthDurron 3-A 1981-2005 Houston Astros
75 zephyr1949 3-C 1903-1927 Cleveland Indians
76 EasyE7273 3-C 1969-1993 St. Louis Cardinals
77 gigrant 3-B 1975-1999 Cleveland Indians
78 zlionsfan 3-C 1962-1986 Philadelphia Phillies
79 Dalefan1 3-D 1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals
80 famous_dad 3-B 1969-1993 Oakland Athletics
81 Poddy 3-D 1901-1925 Cleveland Indians
82 dodgebob 3-B 1988-2012 Atlanta Braves
83 bigsteve12 3-D 1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals
84 tridentric 3-A 1982-2006 St. Louis Cardinals
85 thebubbaq 3-C 1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates
86 maddog162 3-A 1988-2012 San Francisco Giants
87 bbondsmvp 3-D 1981-2005 Houston Astros
88 dvorr80 3-D 1987-2011 New York Yankees
89 leeelci 3-D 1985-2009 Cleveland Indians
90 evil_twin 3-C 1973-1997 Kansas City Royals
91 rickysdad44 3-B 1964-1988 Los Angeles Dodgers
92 scthallfan 3-C 1980-2004 Atlanta Braves
93 Tucker T's 3-A 1916-1940 New York Giants
94 hurricane86 3-B 1988-2012 Minnesota Twins
95 elvisgump 3-B 1987-2011 Seattle Mariners
96 shadoworkcat 3-B 1969-1993 Baltimore Orioles
8/1/2013 9:27 AM
There were 71 unique combinations taken...  It seems that the early Giants seasons are popular with the higher-ranked owners..

Franchise Count AvgRank
1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 11 24.6
1903-1927 Chicago Cubs 3 46.0
1906-1930 Chicago Cubs 3 47.3
1910-1934 New York Giants 3 35.7
1902-1926 New York Giants 2 7.0
1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 2 65.5
1905-1929 Chicago Cubs 2 28.5
1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals 2 59.0
1969-1993 Oakland Athletics 2 58.0
1981-2005 Houston Astros 2 80.5
1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals 2 20.0
1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals 2 63.0
1988-2012 Atlanta Braves 2 72.5
1892-1916 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 73.0
1898-1922 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 21.0
1900-1924 New York Giants 1 2.0
1901-1925 Chicago White Sox 1 40.0
1901-1925 Cleveland Indians 1 81.0
1902-1926 Chicago White Sox 1 47.0
1903-1927 Chicago White Sox 1 28.0
1903-1927 Cleveland Indians 1 75.0
1904-1928 Chicago Cubs 1 60.0
1904-1928 Chicago White Sox 1 56.0
1904-1928 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 20.0
1905-1929 Boston Red Sox 1 6.0
1905-1929 Chicago White Sox 1 8.0
1905-1929 Philadelphia Athletics 1 45.0
1906-1930 New York Giants 1 7.0
1906-1930 St. Louis Cardinals 1 22.0
1907-1931 Cleveland Indians 1 4.0
1907-1931 New York Giants 1 44.0
1908-1932 New York Giants 1 41.0
1908-1932 Philadelphia Athletics 1 5.0
1909-1933 New York Giants 1 12.0
1910-1934 Chicago White Sox 1 42.0
1916-1940 New York Giants 1 93.0
1919-1943 New York Yankees 1 54.0
1932-1956 New York Yankees 1 69.0
1951-1975 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 55.0
1952-1976 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 58.0
1954-1978 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 70.0
1959-1983 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 24.0
1960-1984 Cincinnati Reds 1 71.0
1962-1986 Philadelphia Phillies 1 78.0
1964-1988 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 91.0
1965-1989 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 15.0
1968-1992 Oakland Athletics 1 33.0
1968-1992 St. Louis Cardinals 1 49.0
1969-1993 Baltimore Orioles 1 96.0
1969-1993 St. Louis Cardinals 1 76.0
1970-1994 Oakland Athletics 1 64.0
1973-1997 Kansas City Royals 1 90.0
1973-1997 Montreal Expos 1 35.0
1975-1999 Cleveland Indians 1 77.0
1975-1999 New York Yankees 1 65.0
1976-2000 St. Louis Cardinals 1 32.0
1979-2003 Cincinnati Reds 1 52.0
1979-2003 Kansas City Royals 1 68.0
1980-2004 Atlanta Braves 1 92.0
1980-2004 Oakland Athletics 1 38.0
1981-2005 Montreal Expos 1 67.0
1982-2006 St. Louis Cardinals 1 84.0
1983-2007 New York Mets 1 57.0
1984-2008 New York Mets 1 53.0
1985-2009 Cleveland Indians 1 89.0
1986-2010 New York Yankees 1 62.0
1987-2011 New York Yankees 1 88.0
1987-2011 Seattle Mariners 1 95.0
1988-2012 Boston Red Sox 1 31.0
1988-2012 Minnesota Twins 1 94.0
1988-2012 San Francisco Giants 1 86.0


8/1/2013 9:33 AM
Surprised there wasn't more love for 19th century teams. My first draft was 1885-1909 Cubs (through different incarnations) before I went more conservative and took Giants.
8/1/2013 10:03 AM
I thought about 19th c, but a lot of the guys you would probably most want to use (a) played for franchises that don't have a 25-consecutive-year run and (b) take up a lot of salary for a 90M cap.

Add in the devastating fielding that you have to put up with, and it scared me off.
8/1/2013 10:34 AM
ELEVEN of the same Indians years?? And yet, none of them are in 3-A! We do have 6 New York Giants teams, though.
8/1/2013 10:50 AM

I'm not saying that you're wrong (even though my 1988-2012 Braves are projected to suck), but how are these rankings computed? I'm a WISC newbie.

8/1/2013 12:10 PM
I get it now. You are using schwarze's initial rankings that he already described.
8/1/2013 12:15 PM
Posted by Donburgh on 8/1/2013 10:50:00 AM (view original):
ELEVEN of the same Indians years?? And yet, none of them are in 3-A! We do have 6 New York Giants teams, though.
Ugh... six are in my league (3B).
8/1/2013 12:27 PM
I'm disappointed we don't have more of those Cleveland teams in 3-A. They look like terrible hitters to me. Great pitching, but literally no position players from that era that I'd consider good value at a 90M cap.
8/1/2013 12:57 PM
That makes me feel alot better brianjw. My 90M team is the one I'm most worried about...
8/1/2013 1:04 PM
Really?...I like my 90mil team.  A touch better than my Cubs team of the same era.  I think we'll be fine.  Plus other guys like brian, shaybee and bigmc used roughly the same team/years.....I would be shocked if this wasn't a 90+ win team........your team however is a little later than others - I guess you didn't use a Mathewson?...that could be your downfall 
8/1/2013 2:19 PM
I tried and tried to get Mathewson in there, but just couldn't do it. Maybe I should have tried just a bit harder! I still think this will be a team that finishes better than .500, but probably not a playoff team.
8/1/2013 2:55 PM
I actually put together an early a Cleveland, Giants, and Whitesox team. In the end, there wasnt enough bullpen pitchers with the Cleveland team(I had 4 starters  Joss/Coveleski/Bernhard/Gregg), the Giants team didn't have enough starters although i went with a 2 man rotation of the 08 Mathewson and 04 Mcginnity. The Whitesox team had enough starters and some bullpen, but the worst defense of the three. So all three teams had holes, but I reluctantly went with the Whitesox team thinking they were the most well rounded.
8/1/2013 3:34 PM
Who needs bullpen pitchers? My Cubs team has 5 big starters and they will take turns in then pen. tried a WhiteSox team and couldn't make the cap because they weren't enough cheap scrubs to fill the roster spots. Tried the Giants and thought they were priced too high for this cap, surprised they are getting so much play.
8/1/2013 3:50 PM (edited)
I guess I was the only person who thought the Red Sox of that era was a decent choice.  I really wanted 1919 Ruth and I liked their pitching options (Young, Leonard, Wood). 
8/1/2013 4:15 PM
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