Rule V 28th Leg Draft Thread Topic

This league makes any franchise a contender, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2009) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of franchise win percentage from 1969 through the end of 2009 (the worst teams pick first). Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
6/2 Avg. AAA


No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2009
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be runs scored from the previous season, higher number picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King

5/5/2010 1:20 PM
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5/5/2010 1:22 PM
Rule V Player 1st Round

Owner/TeamOFF BOARD

1. holleybard (Rays) - bob Gibson (Stl)
2. moneybonn (Padres) - Rico Petrocelli (bos)
3. mllama54 (Mariners) - Carlos Delgado (blue Jays)
4. Cheno5 (Brewers)- Carlos beltran (Mets)
5. tridentric (Expos/Nats) - Nomar Garciaparra (bos)boston
6. pugs (Rangers) - Ricky Henderson (A's)
7. moneymen (Royals) - Mark McGwire (Stl)Cardinals
8. schwarze (Indians) - Jason Schmidt (SF)
9. georgedeer (Pirates) - Johan Santana (Twins)
10. marlowe (Twins) - Catfish Hunter (NYY)
11. chrisvillani (Blue Jays) - Tony Gwynn (SD)
12. ff09 (Phillies) - Fernando Valenzuela (LAD)
13. spikeboots (Mets) - Hank Aaron (Atl)
14. Blue911 (Angels) - Roger Clemens (Hou)
15. mussopini23 (Giants) - Lenny Dykstra (Phi)
16. Robin4 (Astros) - Gary Carter (Expos/Nats)
17. newarkwilder (Orioles) - Orel Hershiser (LAD) Dodgers
18. Disco Dogs (Braves) - Alfonso Soriano(NYY) Yankees
19.
llcoach (Cardinals) - Andy Van Slyke (Pit)
20.
specsman (Reds) - Roger Nelson (KC)
21.
deathdealer (A's) - Brady Anderson (Bal)
22.
sinfonian (Dodgers) - Will Clark (SF) Giants
23.
jstewart281 (Red Sox) - Darin Erstad (LAA)
24.
jose can u c (Yankess) - Nolan Ryan (Hou)

2nd Round

1. holleybard (Rays) - Fritz Peterson (NYY)
2. moneybonn (Padres) - Hideo Nomo (LAD)
3.
mllama54 (Mariners) - Larry Dierker (Hou)
4.
Cheno5 (Brewers)- Bernie Williams (NYY) Yankees
5. tridentric (Expos/Nats) - Nolan Ryan (LAA)
6.
pugs (Rangers) - Chris Carpenter (Stl)
7.
moneymen (Royals) - Lance Berkman (Hou) Astros
8.
schwarze (Indians) - Tim Hudson (Oak)
9.
georgedeer (Pirates) - Francisco Rodriguez (LAA) Angels
10.
marlowe (Twins) - Phil Niekro (Atl)
11.
chrisvillani (Blue Jays) - Zack Greinke (KC)
12.
ff09 (Phillies) - John Valentin (Bos)
13.
spikeboots (Mets) - Pete Rose (Cin)
14.
Blue911 (Angels) - Kevin Millwood (Atl) Atlanta
15.
mussopini23 (Giants) - Mario Soto (Cin) Reds
16.
Robin4 (Astros) - Randy Winn (SF)
17.
newarkwilder (Orioles) - Carl Yastrzemski (Bos) Red Sox
18.
Disco Dogs (Braves) - Doug Drabek (Pit)
19.
llcoach (Cardinals) - Jimmy Key (Tor)
20.
specsman (Reds) - Trevor Hoffman (SDG)
21.
deathdealer (A's) - Edgar Martinez (Sea)
22.
sinfonian (Dodgers) - Jim Edmonds (Stl) Cardinals
23.
jstewart281 (Red Sox) - Miguel Tejeda (Bal)
24.
jose can u c (Yankess) -Rick Reuschel (Pit) Pirates

3rd Round

1. holleybard (Rays) - Andy Messersmith (LAD)
2. moneybonn (Padres) - Bobby Murcer (NYY)
3.
mllama54 (Mariners) - Scott Rolen (Stl)
4.
Cheno5 (Brewers)- Javier Lopez (Atl)
5. tridentric (Expos/Nats) - Thurman Munson (NYY) Yankees
6.
pugs (Rangers) - Eric Davis (Cin)
7.
moneymen (Royals) - Jim Rice (Bos)
8.
schwarze (Indians) - David Wright (NYM)
9.
georgedeer (Pirates) - Dustin Pedroia (Bos) Red Sox
10.
marlowe (Twins) - Jimmy Rollins (Phi)
11.
chrisvillani (Blue Jays) - Gary Carter (NYM) Mets
12.
ff09 (Phillies) - JD Drew (Atl) Braves
13.
spikeboots (Mets) - Rafael Bettancourt (Cle)
14.
Blue911 (Angels) - Pascual Perez (Mon/Was)
15.
mussopini23 (Giants) - CC Sabathia (Cle) Indians
16.
Robin4 (Astros) - Johnny Damon (KC)
17.
newarkwilder (Orioles) - Mark Eichhorn (Tor)
18.
Disco Dogs (Braves) - Todd Frohwirth (Bal)
19.
llcoach (Cardinals) - BJ Ryan (Tor)
20.
specsman (Reds) - Scott Garrelts (SFG)
21.
deathdealer (A's) - Roberto Alomar (Bal) Orioles
22.
sinfonian (Dodgers) - Jose Oquendo (Stl) Cards
23.
jstewart281 (Red Sox) - Don Wilson (Hou)
24.
jose can u c (Yankess) - Kevin Mitchell (SFG) Giants

mussopini23;specsman;schwarze;mllama54;llcoach;jstewart281;holleybard;sinfonian11;moneymen;tridentric;Disco Dogs;Marlowe;ff09;Robin4;spikeboots;jose can u c;deathdealer;pugs;moneybonn;fletchkd;georgedeer;Blue911;Cheno5; chrisvillani






Divisional Alignment (commissioner's discretion, but I do keep it as real as possible) This could change depending on franchises taken:


NL West - Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Houston

NL Central - Cincinnati, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee

NL East - Atlanta, New York (N), Philly, Montrea/Wash

AL West - Oakland, Texas, Seattle, California/Anaheim

AL Central - Minnesota, Kansas City, Cleveland, Toronto

AL East - New York (A), Boston, Baltimore, Tampa Bay



Exclusive Players (Protected)

Holleybard(Rays) – Ben Zobrist, Evan Longoria, Randy Winn, Carl Crawford, Scott Kazmir, Bob Gibson, Grant Balfour, Fritz Peterson, Carlos Pena

moneybonn(Padres)- Ken Caminiti, Gary Sheffield, Randy Jones, Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Rico Petrocelli, Mark Loretta, Hideo Nomo, Cla Meredith

mllama54(Mariners)- Ichiro Suzuki, Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Brett Boone, Carlos Delgado, Felix Hernandez, Larry Dierker, JJ Putz

Cheno5(Brewers)- Robin Yount, Prince Fielder, CC Sabathia, Teddy Higuera, Ben Sheets, Carlos Beltran, Mike Caldwell, Bernie Williams, Rollie Fingers

tridentric(Expos)- Vlad Guerrero, Tim Raines, Moises Alou, Pedro Martinez, Dennis Martinez, Nomar Garciaparra, Tim Burke, Nolan Ryan, Jose Vidro

pugs(Rangers)- Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Alex Rodriguez, Nolan Ryan, Gaylord Perry, Rickey Henderson, Bert Blyleven, Chris Carpenter, Jon Matlack

moneymen(Royals)- George Brett, Amos Otis, Brett Saberhagen, David Cone, Kevin Appier, Mark McGwire, Darrell Porter, Lance Berkman, Joakim Soria

schwarze(Indians)- Gaylord Perry, Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, Roberto Alomar, Manny Ramirez, Jason Schmidt, Jim Thome, Tim Hudson, Victor Martinez

georgedeer(Pirates) – Barry Bonds, Jay Bell, Brian Giles, Rich Gossage, Jose DeLeon, Johan Santana, Jason Kendall, Francisco Rodriguez, Rick Rhoden

marlowe(Twins)- Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch, Kirby Puckett, Lyman Bostock, Catfish Hunter, Joe Nathan, Phil Niekro, Bert Blyleven

chrisvillani(Blue Jays)- John Olerud, Tony Fernandez, Roy Halladay, Roger Clemens, Paul Molitor, Tony Gwynn, Roberto Alomar, Zack Greinke, Vernon Wells

ff09(Phillies)- Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Mike Schmidt, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Fernando Valenzuela, Bobby Abreu, John Valentin, Mike Lieberthal

spikeboots(Mets)- Doc Gooden, Tom Seaver, Pedro Martinez, Bret Saberhagen, Mike Piazza, Hank Aaron, John Olerud, Pete Rose, Edgardo Alfonzo

Blue911(Angels) – Frank Tanana, Troy Percival, Mark Teixeira, Bobby Grich, Tim Salmon, Roger Clemens, Vlad Guerrero, Kevin Millwood, Troy Glaus

mussopini23(Giants)- Barry Bonds, Tim Lincecum, Juan Marichal, Willy McCovey, Rich Aurilia, Lenny Dykstra, Jeff Kent, Mario Soto, Robb Nen

Robin4(Astros)- Mike Scott, JR Richard, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Cesar Cedeno, Gary Carter, Billy Wagner, Randy Winn, Brad Lidge


newarkwilder(Orioles)- Mike Cuellar, Jim Palmer, Cal Ripken, Frank Robinson, Chris Hoiles, Orel Hershiser, Melvin Mora, Carl Yastrzemski, Al Brumbly

Disco Dogs(Braves)- Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Gary Sheffield, Chipper Jones, Brian McCann, Alfonso Soriano, Dale Murphy, Doug Drabek, Mark Teixiera

llcoach(Cardinals)- Albert Pujols, Joe Torre, Willie McGee, John Tudor, Jose Deleon, Andy Van Slyke, Ted Simmons, Jimmy Key, Ozzie Smith

specsman(Reds)- Tom Seaver, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, George Foster, Barry Larkin, Roger Nelson, Tony Perez, Trevor Hoffman, Jose Rijo

deathdealer(A’s)- Vida Blue, Mike Norris, Catfish Hunter, Dennis Eckersley, Jason Giambi, Brady Anderson, Andrew Bailey, Edgar Martinez, Steve McCatty

sinfonian(Dodgers)- Don Sutton, Kevin Brown, Bill Singer, Eric Gagne, Mike Piazza, Will Clark, Adrian Beltre, Jim Edmonds, Rafael Furcal

jstewart281(Red Sox)- Carlton Fisk, Wade Boggs, Fred Lynn, Pedro Martinez, Rogers Clemens, Darin Erstad, Derek Lowe, Miguel Tejeda, Johnathan Papelbon

jose can u c(Yankees) – Ron Guidry, Derek Jeter, Paul O’Neil, Rickey Henderson, Alex Rodriguez, Nolan Ryan, Jorge Posada, Rick Rueschel, Mariano Rivera
5/6/2010 2:37 PM
my suggestion for draft order:

1. all returning owners that did not qualify for playoffs in inverse order of winning pct.
2. returning owners who lost in round 1 of playoffs in inverse order
3. the two LCS losers in inverse order, if returning
4. world series loser, if returning
5. world series winner, if returning
6. new owners in order of sign-up

5/6/2010 3:42 PM
I think the draft order is usually random, except new owners draft last.
5/6/2010 4:02 PM
doc put the returning owners at the top of the list ranked by their previous season result going from worst to first,last place chooses first and WS Champ goes last.Then any wait list owners fill out the list, in the order they joined the league.Hope this helps. Based on the owner list for this season Jose would choose first followed by spike and so on.Then you need to wait for a WS winner to determine those involved for their rank followed by the new owners.

5/6/2010 4:03 PM
It was random a few seasons back, but over the past 2 seasons it went in reverse order of record.
5/6/2010 4:49 PM
wow Death, that's a great idea
5/6/2010 7:14 PM
lol
5/6/2010 7:31 PM
It's not a big deal to wait until the current leg is over before we draft. I actually prefer it that way. It's only a few more days.
5/6/2010 10:06 PM
thanks for the input all, I will wait for the WS to be over, I will make a unofficial draft list since there are only 2 teams remaining, and then post, and update once it's over.
5/7/2010 11:52 AM
I guess Jose can u c is back...
5/9/2010 8:12 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By jstewart281 on 5/09/2010I guess Jose can u c is back...
Indeed we are. Karma interceded, schwarze vanquished the Evil Empire and all is right with the world.
5/9/2010 10:42 AM
I will post the Franchise draft order shortly
5/10/2010 12:12 PM
I believe I got the franchise draft selection right, if someone wants to double check that would be great, please remember that there were 2 teams with low records that actually went to playoffs. If we are all good to go, jose can u c can start the franchise selection at any time....THERE WILL BE NO SKIPPING.
5/10/2010 4:06 PM
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