Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 12:18:00 PM (view original):
And by wrong people you mean black people, poor people....anyone likely to vote for Obama. The fact is it is theoretically possible to commit voter fraud either way. The only way to get rid of the possibilty is to do away with democracy altogether. But you'd love a plutocracy, wouldn't you?

Posted by stinenavy on 8/21/2012 12:28:00 PM (view original):
"wrong people" = blacks and latinos

The guy who claimed to be Holder didn't vote, and if some dumbass wants to spend 5 years in jail in order to cast a fraudulent ballot, feel free. There's no justification in making thousands unable to vote in order to prevent a couple from voting fraudulently.

Posted by stinenavy on 8/21/2012 12:35:00 PM (view original):
Where in the constitution does it say anything about buying beer?

I dont believe it does. Why?

Nice catch phrase, bad logic.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/21/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by stinenavy on 8/21/2012 12:28:00 PM (view original):
"wrong people" = blacks and latinos

The guy who claimed to be Holder didn't vote, and if some dumbass wants to spend 5 years in jail in order to cast a fraudulent ballot, feel free. There's no justification in making thousands unable to vote in order to prevent a couple from voting fraudulently.

Why should voting be easier than buying a beer.

ID seems like such an easy thing. Why is this an issue?

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 12:46:00 PM (view original):
Someone in Warren, Michigan might commit a crime. Therefore, we should lock up the whole city.

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Posted by stinenavy on 8/16/2012 2:06:00 AM (view original):
Rasmussen, lol

And what is the problem.

This is the polling group that is routinly hailed as the most accurate polling group in America. They nailed 2008, 2004 and 2000.

So the left now is claiming that Rasmusses in baised because they are showing how bad Obama is doing!

2008 was a slam dunk, even the corpse of Jimmy the Greek could have predicted an easy Obama victory.  2000 & 2004 are skewed because of the voter fraud perpetuated by the Republican  state election boards in Florida and Ohio respectively, so Rasmussen must have had some inside information?

Have you really convinced yourself that voter fraud was perpetrated by Repubs in those years?  You're sad.

I don't have to convince myself, it happened, the facts are out there, it's sad that you are too wrapped up in the Dems vs Repubs game to acknowledge that our democratic system was hijacked by the Bushies in 2000 & 2004.

You dont get to claim that you have information that no one else has and then claim we are stupid for not accepting your version of reality.

There was no voter fraud in 2000 or 2004 to get Bush a win. There is always some fraud each year, but it is scattered and non-specific.

I can't be at fault if you are too lazy or clueless to look it up, but then we know your history of not doing research and backing up your wild statements.

The first smoking gun is that all the major networks exit polls were showing Gore as the clear winner, exit polls are even more dependable than your Rasmussen polls - yet the Bushies were whining and crying foul, of course they knew the fix was in.

I'm claiming your stupid for not accepting the truth but keep sticking your head in the sand.  Sad that a guy that claims to love American, freedom, liberty and justice can not accept the fact that 2 elections were stolen - why do you hate America?

Too perfect.  Claiming exit polls are somehow superior to the actual vote.  No one could even make this up.  The absurdity of that argument is amazing.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/21/2012 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 12:46:00 PM (view original):
Someone in Warren, Michigan might commit a crime. Therefore, we should lock up the whole city.

No. Someone in Warren might commit a crime so use basic safety measures to prevent it.

We are not making people jump through hoops and sing the star spangled banner. PICTURE ID.

Is this really such a big thing?

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 3:11:00 AM (view original):
Viktor Yanukovych could have been President of Ukraine 5 years earlier if everyone was as naive as jclark.

Posted by seamar_116 on 8/21/2012 4:38:00 AM (view original):
jim  <<The first smoking gun is that all the major networks exit polls were showing Gore as the clear winner, exit polls are even more dependable than your Rasmussen polls - yet the Bushies were whining and crying foul, of course they knew the fix was in.>>

jclarkbaker  <<Too perfect.  Claiming exit polls are somehow superior to the actual vote.  No one could even make this up.  The absurdity of that argument is amazing.>>

jclark-jim said no such thing. He said exit polls are more accurate than other polls...(primarily because they target actual voters instead of likely voters). Why do conservatives feel the need to misrepresent the positions of others? Reading comprehension does not appear to be one of your strengths.

Swamp-And if there is no indication of voter fraud why are the Republicans so hell-bent on claiming that it is rampant and resorting to all sorts of measures to take away the voting rights of those likely to vote for Democrats?

Grabbing the popcorn to watch you two explain your "thought" processes...

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 12:18:00 PM (view original):
And by wrong people you mean black people, poor people....anyone likely to vote for Obama. The fact is it is theoretically possible to commit voter fraud either way. The only way to get rid of the possibilty is to do away with democracy altogether. But you'd love a plutocracy, wouldn't you?

You guys cannot even come up with a good argument against IDs.  It is so damn sad.

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 2:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/21/2012 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by genghisxcon on 8/21/2012 12:46:00 PM (view original):
Someone in Warren, Michigan might commit a crime. Therefore, we should lock up the whole city.

No. Someone in Warren might commit a crime so use basic safety measures to prevent it.

We are not making people jump through hoops and sing the star spangled banner. PICTURE ID.

Is this really such a big thing?

It is if you've moved recently, and the address on your photo ID isn't current.

OK, so who moves most often? Well, poor people changing apartments, college kids...you know, the Democratic-leaning demographics. That is the ONLY reason for this crap.