I didnt say Kyoto was bad, but that it didnt go far enough. It was a compromise in order to get passed. I hope that the original plans for Kyoto was to make it meaty enough that it would have made a real difference. Unfortunately in the end it did next to nothing, in fact it might have done much worse then nothing because it got a lot of people like you saying that they we as a whole have done enough for the environment because Kyoto was passed. Am I happy in the end that it passed? Yah, but very reservedly, I would have been much more happy if us enviros could have done a much better job in convincing the majority that more was and most definitely still is needed to be done.
I am of the opinion (through research by reading many books) that we can in fact have our cake and eat it too. The environment can be fixed and people can still have their flat screen TVs, their jobs, and their meals in restaurants. We can still have cars, we can still have vacations in sunny spots. The way we go about making all these things would change, the corporations that make these things would drastically change, they would all be not for profit worker owned co-ops. Money wouldnt be the driving factor and force when it comes to deciding how to make things, their enviro impact would be the major factor. Not everything would be made in China anymore, it would be manufactured all over the world equally, and in such a way that we dont have to have thousands and thousands of container ships crossing the oceans every day. Trust me, solutions are there, but, no doubt it would take a major revolution, one the likes of we have never seen before. Or possibly armageddon. One way or the other it will happen, but if we can do it without armageddon I think Id prefer that.