Posted by swamphawk22 on 4/9/2013 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by greeny9 on 4/8/2013 10:00:00 PM (view original):
Theres nothing blindly believing in it man. Im living it, as is most North Americans. Really all of us. But most people dont want to believe that their actions and the actions of humanity are slowly destroying our climate. Id guess the biggest reason is that they dont want to change their daily lives, so if you convince yourself that your surroundings are the same as when you where a child you dont need to feel bad about not doing anything to fix it, because you think there is nothing to fix. I on the other hand choose to believe my eyes, I can see it everyday how things are different now then when I was a kid. And its obvious to me and anybody else that sits down and thinks about it. Pre-humans the Earth changed slowly. Since the industrial revolution the Earth has been changing many many many times faster then it ever has before. The CO2 concentrations are something like 50% more today then they were only 100 years ago, this has happened in the past but it took thousands of years to get that drastic of a change, now it takes one hundred. You really think that that kind of change isnt going to affect our climate? Have you heard about the recent dieing off of honey-bees? Check it out. How about the Mountain Pine Beetle? years ago winters slowed them down, now winters are so calm that they arent being slowed down anymore, they are killing pine forests in numbers that will in short order make building houses quite a bit more expensive. This just 2 of thousands of things that have changed within the past 20 years (or less). If I spent a few days researching I could probably come up with litterally hundreds of verifiable crappy symptoms of a warming climate.
So, again, "I told you so"
Weather is chaging. It always has. The 2 questions that we need to ask are...
1 Is this weather pattern leading to a disaster?
2 Is this weather pattern man made?
It is easy to show that there is a change in weather patterns.
It is easy to crate a scenario where it is man made, not prove it, but just create the scenario.
Can we come to "Earth is going to end if we dont destroy Western Capitalism" based on any available data??
Yes, weather does change, yesterday it was 10 degrees (C) today it was 3. That must mean the climate is cooling right?
As I outlined in the large paragraph up there yes, disasters are happening right now due to climate change, unless you are fine with all honey bees dieing off and houses and any other product that uses cheap pine wood growing ever more expensive. About the honey bees, have you looked that up yet? I dare ya. If you had any intelligence at all you will be scared shitless if it happens. Can you say massive food shortages that cant be anywhere near fully replaced?
Its been proven, you just choose to not listen to that proof. Youd rather let Fixed News lull you into a sense of safety.
Ive said numerous times its not necessary to destroy "western capitalism" to save our climate. You choose to not believe it. But thats what I come to expect from you righties.