Posted by oldresorter on 8/12/2011 2:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 8/12/2011 1:16:00 PM (view original):
kmason -- I respect you as a coach and am certainly not accusing you of wrongdoing, but I absolutely do not think you should be allowed to have neighboring teams in Ohio and West Virginia.
so why was my earlier example so irrelevant - my message was addressed to KM - who I have had a bit of an ongoing FRIENDLY discussion with all the way back to our coaches corner about having multiple ID's in relative proximity - I carefully chose WV and Ohio because of their relevance to KM and myself - I would pick others to try to explore this issue with you? I told KM on our coaches corner a week or two ago, that he should check with CS to approve having two d1 teams that might be considered too close. I also told him that CS approval would cover his butt if someone attacks his integrity. Let's face it, gil is getting attacked pretty hard here, and IMO he is as honest a coach as this game has, so having multiple ID's does set you up for scrutiny, deserved or not.
Earlier in this thread, I stated if cs is ok with any case of muyltiple id's so Iam I, but if I were in charge, it would be one coach, one world, one team. The posting here since then only strengthens my conviction on that. Of course, girt I am sure you would join the many out there who are glad I am not in charge - LOL
thanks OR.
i can definitely appreciate the fact that you would set it to one team/world if in charge. ill be honest. if i were in charge, i would set it to one team per division per world, and line up recruiting seasons for some worlds. i personally can't see any potential advantage or impact on anybody else, by a coach who attempts to play fair, by having multiple teams in a world, provided they are in different divisions - so i would allow that. but i do see the potential for issues in the same division. the one and only reason i play this game with 2 teams in 1 division is because i just can't take the disruption a recruiting season causes me multiple times a month. i do have a team in rupp that is a backseat team, not nearly as disruptive to recruit for - but i want to have 2 real d1 teams, and the alternative for me to having 2 in one world is to just have 1 - not to have 2 in 2 different worlds.
i also appreciate that OR can be against something but take a moderate approach and have a reasonable discussion without having a witch hunt. at one point, i had absolutely nothing against multiple teams in a division - OR brought up a number of things that are all small effects IMO, but big enough that i actually did drop down to one team/division as a result of our discussions. he convinced me, for a time, that while i had an A+ and C- team, there was no problem, but if that other team got competitive, there was - so once they got competitive, made a few NTs then the elite 8 - i dropped them. after further consideration, given the state of the game, i feel the positive of adding another coach who cares about their team easily outweighs the negatives - but if i were in charge, i presume worlds would stay competitive, and i would impose a 1team/division restriction.
however, it is also worth noting that 1 guy who is able to separate emotions from the issue, and get down to the issue itself, can make a big difference - while 100 angry people who are railing out of control, without ever getting to anything concrete, can make 0 difference. might be worth thinking over for some of those out there.
8/12/2011 3:16 PM (edited)