how to prestige as a number? Topic

i was wondering what the prestige vs recruiting effort scale would look like.  

for example if:
A+ had a range of 100 - 95
A   had a range of 94 - 90
A-  had a range of  89 - 85

B+ had a range of 84 - 80
B  had a range of  79 - 75
B- had a range of 74 - 70

etc.....

so according to this scale an A+ team would have up to a 30% advantage over a B-

I know this scale is wrong but could someone give me an idea of what they think would be close?
11/29/2012 10:52 AM
does anybody have any ideas?  
12/1/2012 12:43 AM
Supposedly at D1 it is around a 1.7x multiplier for each full grade. At D2 and D3 prestige barely matters.

Source:
http://whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=408031&Page=1

12/1/2012 3:17 AM
I think the only difference at DII and DIII is which recruits will talk to you.  Once you get the go ahead to recruit a player its virtually a level playing field.
12/1/2012 11:17 AM
so if the 1.7 multiplier is used:

100   A+
86.2  A
72.5  A-

58.8  B+
50.7  B
42.6  B-

34.6  C+
29.8  C
25.0  C-

20.3  D+
17.5  D
14.7  D-
12/1/2012 12:58 PM
so if a C- and an A+ battle for a player the C- has to spend 4 times as much?     WOW,  even the B having to spend twice as much to beat an A+ seems flawed to me.  these numbers seem like they would REALLY deter the ability for a team to be built up like we're able to do in GD
12/1/2012 1:48 PM (edited)
Seems pretty realistic to me. 
12/1/2012 1:23 PM
the C- vs the A+ does seem OK but the B vs A+ seem like much.   I would think of it in purdue vs indiana terms,  yes indy will get most of the hoosier staters but purdue has a great following too and i would think it wouldnt in real world cost be double?  but maybe Im thinking of this in the wrong way
12/1/2012 2:59 PM
there is definitely some dissent about the value of prestige, i believe its less than 1.7x.
12/1/2012 5:19 PM
here's a chart for varying multipliers.
assuming the prestige is a straight line value.  ie.. a B to A is the same as a D to a C.
 
per full letter grade

 

1.10

1.20

1.30

1.40

1.50

1.60

1.70

1.80

1.90

2.00

A+    

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

100.0

A

 96.9

 94.1

 91.6

 89.4

 87.4

 85.5

 83.8

 82.2

 80.7

 79.4

A-

 93.9

 88.6

 83.9

 79.9

 76.3

 73.1

 70.2

 67.6

 65.2

 63.0

B+

 90.9

 83.4

 76.9

 71.4

 66.7

 62.5

 58.8

 55.5

 52.6

 50.0

B

 88.1

 78.5

 70.5

 63.8

 58.3

 53.5

 49.3

 45.7

 42.5

 39.7

B-

 85.3

 73.8

 64.5

 57.1

 50.9

 45.7

 41.3

 37.5

 34.3

 31.5

C+

 82.7

 69.5

 59.1

 51.0

 44.5

 39.1

 34.6

 30.9

 27.7

 25.0

C

 80.1

 65.4

 54.2

 45.6

 38.9

 33.4

 29.0

 25.4

 22.4

 19.8

C-

 77.6

 61.6

 49.6

 40.8

 33.9

 28.6

 24.3

 20.8

 18.1

 15.7

D+

 75.2

 57.9

 45.5

 36.4

 29.7

 24.4

 20.4

 17.1

 14.6

 12.5

D

 72.8

 54.5

 41.7

 32.6

 25.9

 20.9

 17.1

 14.1

 11.8

   9.9

D-

 70.6

 51.3

 38.2

 29.1

 22.6

 17.9

 14.3

 11.6

   9.5

   7.9

12/1/2012 5:53 PM (edited)
assuming the above numbers and sliding prestige are accurate; I coverted the % to dollars needed to match.

 

10%

20%

30%

40%

50%

60%

70%

80%

90%

100%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A+

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

1000

A

1032

1063

1092

1119

1144

1170

1193

1217

1239

1259

A-

1065

1129

1192

1252

1311

1368

1425

1479

1534

1587

B+

1100

1199

1300

1401

1499

1600

1701

1802

1901

2000

B

1135

1274

1418

1567

1715

1869

2028

2188

2353

2519

B-

1172

1355

1550

1751

1965

2188

2421

2667

2915

3175

C+

1209

1439

1692

1961

2247

2558

2890

3236

3610

4000

C

1248

1529

1845

2193

2571

2994

3448

3937

4464

5051

C-

1289

1623

2016

2451

2950

3497

4115

4808

5525

6369

D+

1330

1727

2198

2747

3367

4098

4902

5848

6849

8000

D

1374

1835

2398

3067

3861

4785

5848

7092

8475

10101

D-

1416

1949

2618

3436

4425

5587

6993

8621

10526

12658

12/1/2012 6:17 PM
Posted by all2matt on 12/1/2012 2:59:00 PM (view original):
the C- vs the A+ does seem OK but the B vs A+ seem like much.   I would think of it in purdue vs indiana terms,  yes indy will get most of the hoosier staters but purdue has a great following too and i would think it wouldnt in real world cost be double?  but maybe Im thinking of this in the wrong way
B v. A+ wouldn't be Indiana v. Purdue in the WIS world.  In Phelan D1, there are 15 A+, 6 A, 13 A, 4 B+, 14 B. Purdue by no means is a top tier program, but I would be hard pressed to say they are in the tier of 38-52 ranked team in NCAA. 
12/1/2012 7:41 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 12/1/2012 7:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all2matt on 12/1/2012 2:59:00 PM (view original):
the C- vs the A+ does seem OK but the B vs A+ seem like much.   I would think of it in purdue vs indiana terms,  yes indy will get most of the hoosier staters but purdue has a great following too and i would think it wouldnt in real world cost be double?  but maybe Im thinking of this in the wrong way
B v. A+ wouldn't be Indiana v. Purdue in the WIS world.  In Phelan D1, there are 15 A+, 6 A, 13 A, 4 B+, 14 B. Purdue by no means is a top tier program, but I would be hard pressed to say they are in the tier of 38-52 ranked team in NCAA. 
That seems like a lot of a+'s.... I thought there'd be maybe 8-10 schools in that range. Jmo
12/1/2012 7:54 PM
Similar numbers in Knight - 15 A+, 5 A, 12 A-, 8 B+, 17 B. The Purdue program is B-.
12/1/2012 8:03 PM
Posted by lmschwarz on 12/1/2012 8:03:00 PM (view original):
Similar numbers in Knight - 15 A+, 5 A, 12 A-, 8 B+, 17 B. The Purdue program is B-.
I don't think allmatt is talking about purdue's prestige in WIS, but the distance between a program like Purdue to a program like Indiana in the real world. A program like Purdue under the WIS system would be more like a high B+ to A- range. With Indiana at A+, the edge would be between 30-60%, a big advantage to Indiana/A+ program but can be overcome by Purdue/the B+ A- program. 
12/1/2012 8:07 PM
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