Posted by nickguy08 on 5/5/2014 11:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by llamanunts on 5/4/2014 7:03:00 PM (view original):
I know my method of recruiting is not the popular method, but it has worked. I think Nyack in the Knight world is probably the best example of my method.
If peaking at the #49 RPI and some first round NT exits is a supportive example of your method, you may have some reevaluating to do.
I think the general opinion is that maybe I am not putting much thought into recruiting, because I don't use the service.
I'm sure you're putting a lot of thought into it, but it's really inefficient. If you want to be a winning coach you're going to have to use all the information you can get your hands on. FSS is VITAL if you want to have any real success. Two guys with identical starting numbers will often look wildly different from each other with FSS information. You're a sacrificing huge huge huge amount by foregoing it.
I did ramble on this post. I should be sleeping.
Make it cost less and I will use it. The service costs too much when users are in a weak conference. The service is affordable a little bit more bigger conferences. That is my biggest issue. A successful school should benefit more from it regardless of the conference. Why share the "team" success with a conference full of sims. IRL D3 level public schools HAVE advantages when they are a conference of private schools that cost $30,000+ year to attend. You think Wichita St has an as small basketball budget as the rest of the conference ? I wouldn't think so. Why should I be at fault in that case too?
I don't disagree with the benefits. I said in an earlier post this past season I had $3,000 to spend on one recruit. As it turns out I spent 3/4 of it on a recruit that was undecided until about the last day. I woke up the recruit ended up signing with someone else. If I were to get into battles with the best "potential" from the FSS service, I wouldn't have any cash to get a decent player.
As for the # 49 RPI, yeah I see what you are saying. I try my best to schedule tough non-conference games, but I can't control the conference. Not using the service, took Nyack to the first NT EVER, when 5 previous coaches could not. (They probably used the service.) Just good coaching?
Am I at fault for wanting to turn a program around? Often times they are in the weakest conferences. I took a small chunk little of thunder away from the Felician dominance while I was there. I am sure that user used the service too.
nick, nobody is trying to tell you that you can't make the NT without the scouting service. however, you will be severely disadvantaged when you get to higher levels of competition. winning a title in d3 without the scouting service is nearly impossible. if half the coaches in d3 used the service, and the other half didn't, well over 90% of the titles would go to the folks who did use the service. they'd hold most of the NT spots, too, but their monopoly on final 4s and championships would greatly exceed their monopoly on NT bids. this is true even in the weakest conference in d3, but it gets more and more true the higher you go (except that the highest level of d1 can be a bit anomalous).
i highly recommend you try to get used to it, even if you feel like it gives you a small hit now. its worth the hit now so that when you try to position yourself for deep runs, you don't have to start fresh with something so important at that time. and even if it seems like a wash at your current level, knowing it only gets more important, thats a good reason to try it. however, if you just want to stick with what is working, thats totally cool with me, im not trying to pressure you into changing your ways or anything. i just think its in your best interests to do so.