Posted by ettaexpress on 5/7/2014 8:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wildcat98 on 5/7/2014 8:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by nickguy08 on 5/7/2014 8:17:00 PM (view original):
I think FSS is to much of a shotgun approach. Going out and scouting players is more rifle approach. I think tiering the FSS service would be ideal. Full cost reveals everything. 2nd grade reveals a little less, 3rd tier just enough to get a good read. There are certain ratings I could care less about.

An example:

You're graduating 2 starters, plus your top sub. In your next class, you need a PG/SG with the potential to start in a couple years, a SF that's versatile enough to back up at the PF right away, and a true C to be your main big sub. You identify 9 players that fit those criteria during the regular season, before recruiting begins. Let's say all are within the 360 mile window that makes scouting trips a lot less expensive, just to make your (in my opinion, very odd) strategy at least a bit more plausible.

If you send out even ONE scouting trip for each of the 9 players, you'll have spent, at minimum, around $1,500. If you follow up with another scouting trip on even 4 or 5 of them, that's probably another $1,000. When you narrow it down to the 3 you're going to offer on, you'll probably send at least one more scouting trip, for just under $1,000 total. And even then, you're not guaranteed that your "scout" will provide you info on the categories you're interested in. Meanwhile, you could have simply scouted Texas and whichever surrounding state you're closest to, and had MUCH more accurate information on all 9 prospects, plus perhaps many that you overlook by focusing TOO much on starting values.

As I mentioned before, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face on this issue. You're gaining absolutely nothing by not using FSS, and you're losing a LOT. And I still can't figure out why.

Why do you care? And why should he listen to you? You've got as many championships as he does.

Obviously he doesn't think he's cutting off his nose to spite his face, and he seems to have some background from which to be able to make such a judgment. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong.

One thing you gain by not using FSS is obvious...money. So it's not accurate to say you gain nothing by not using it. 

Posted by ettaexpress on 5/7/2014 8:56:00 PM (view original):
I'm tempted to try nick's method just to prove you wrong, but this might be the wrong year and place to do it if I do stay around. I can definitely see his way working in certain situations though. Since you're apparently not smart enough to figure out what those are, I'm not going to be the one to give you any ideas because after all why would I want to add to your knowledge when you already know SOOOOOO much more than me.

If I had almost 2500 games and no championships, I think I'd have admitted to myself by then that I'm just not very good, and gone on to do something else. 

I see the Villanova collapse is complete. IRL you'd be so fired right now.

Heck Northwood with its 4 scholarship players has won more games in the last half dozen than you have.

Posted by dacj501 on 5/7/2014 9:22:00 PM (view original):
no offense to nickguy intended as he seems like a decent enough person, but I stopped trying to offer advice after he defended keeping the 15 ath 3 def PF for 4 seasons. He obviously has his own POV on the game and isn't interested in taking advice, so why keep offering it? 

Posted by wildcat98 on 5/7/2014 8:46:00 PM (view original):
Godwin's Law is now in effect: first person to mention Hitler in an argument loses.

Posted by wildcat98 on 5/7/2014 9:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ettaexpress on 5/7/2014 8:56:00 PM (view original):
I'm tempted to try nick's method just to prove you wrong, but this might be the wrong year and place to do it if I do stay around. I can definitely see his way working in certain situations though. Since you're apparently not smart enough to figure out what those are, I'm not going to be the one to give you any ideas because after all why would I want to add to your knowledge when you already know SOOOOOO much more than me.

If I had almost 2500 games and no championships, I think I'd have admitted to myself by then that I'm just not very good, and gone on to do something else. 

I see the Villanova collapse is complete. IRL you'd be so fired right now.

Heck Northwood with its 4 scholarship players has won more games in the last half dozen than you have.

I am a better coach than you are, and it's not close. And with how unwilling to learn from people who try to help you, that state of affairs will never change. I'd bet good money that you never even SNIFF a high-major conference.

As for me, I play this game because I enjoy it. I come to these boards to learn from other coaches, and talk about HD. You apparently come here to act like an arrogant jagoff that already has all the answers. Have fun with that.

Jagoff? Are you from Pittsburgh, too?

Far as I can tell, your main activity on the board comes in responding with a snide remark to pretty much anything I say.

I probably won't ever *sniff* a high-major conference because I won't stay around long enough because of all the problems with this game. This is no longer an opinion which it can be said isn't shared. There's now very open conversation about issues with the game, but I'm sure I'll get no credit for that. That's cool, I'm used to it.