Posted by bhansalid00 on 5/20/2016 3:33:00 PM (view original):
I think there's one valid criticism of myers' teams (or rather the gameplay), which is that his relatively average speed should hurt him more than it does. I see some games where he's forcing [edited] 25+ TO while having less guard speed than his opponent. That's a stretch.
But I think the rest of the criticisms are off-base. A couple of points:
- The superclass argument. He's top-10 in worlds where he has 3 seniors and 5+ sophs. He's top-25 with a team that has 4 upperclassmen.
- "All he does is get ATH and DEF." First, as others have pointed out, his strategy only works so well because he also gets elite STA. It's insanely hard to get players who'll have all three of those attributes - not at a very good level, but at an elite level - since everybody wants those attributes. In Rupp, his team DEF avg is 74. That's with 5 sophs. The next highest DEF in D3 Rupp is 67. The highest in *D2* is 71. 90% of human players are looking for and fighting for those same attributes, and myers consistently gets them better than nearly everyone else.
- He recruits nationally, which most coaches don't even try to do at D3, and even fewer do really well. And he's able to pull it off both in worlds with nearly full Centennial confs, and worlds where it's nearly empty and he won't get the benefit of postseason cash from his conf mates.
As jsajsa pointed out, he's certainly beatable if you've got the right players and right gameplan. (Side note: opponents playing him -1 in the NT, when Dickinson hasn't made a single 3PT all season and he has a +15 reb adv / game = not the right gameplan.) His teams walk a real tightrope with their lack of BH / PAS, and it often backfires. But I think he's aware of those tradeoffs and navigates them perfectly, in both recruiting and depth chart, and to me that makes what he does much more interesting than most people seem to give him credit for.
Here's a box score of all ath verse all speed he beat me 2 seasons in a row both went to OT if I remember.
Box Score
Same here not attack at all, clearly no one else is replicating it so its not "gaming" the system like people think, sure it's not the most "ideal" or one that could theoretically work, but it does work. Yes it shouldn't work to the extent it does for some players/games, but it does and if it was truly cheating the system many more people would've tried to and successfully run it as well. I know 2 other coaches that run extremely high ath/def lineups cbriese and carlbuzz both run probably the next highest ath/def lineups and carl does it with a zone in Knight and cbreise runs a flex press I believe.
You guys are also making a huge fuss over that player yes he would probably not be that good in real life, but knowing how the engine works, look at his ratings he has 98 ath 59 spd 100 def 45 bh 100 stamina B+ FT yes he would never work as a PG but in an engine that favors ath so heavily, that ath/stamina/FT is insane at D3.
I agree ideally that should not work at PG, but at SF and maaaybe SG you could get away with it at D3.
5/20/2016 3:58 PM (edited)