Posted by bfkfraser on 6/10/2011 5:42:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rmancil on 6/9/2011 11:46:00 PM (view original):Only 7 D1-A schools athletic departments were self-sufficient for a recent 5 year program.
Posted by bfkfraser on 6/9/2011 11:33:00 PM (view original):Did you look at any of the financial reports and links?
Posted by rmancil on 6/9/2011 11:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by slid64er on 6/9/2011 11:05:00 PM (view original):You like that tail wagging the dog a lot don't you? First off the non profit is a legalism in fact no school or organization can in fact run a loss year after year unless of course your the federal government and get to print the money every institution makes a profit.
rmancil - You finally understand. It's socialist, not capitalist. Every educational institution is a non-profit. That's also why they support the NCAA and participate in intercollegiate athletics despite it being a money hole for >90% of them. Schools have a much larger mandate and the NCAA helps them fulfill it.
And besides, it's no one right to pursue a professional athletic career just as it's no one's right to be a doctor. It takes certain training and sacrifice in either case, but just because you want it doesn't mean that everyone else gets out of your way to make it easy for you. Yet you want to cater to that 0.1% that do make it. Tail wagging the dog.
Again, you also can't differentiate between an employee and student athlete. If you can't make the differentiation, that's on you. If you can't understand the cost/benefit analysis for all student athletes, that's on you too.
Anyway, I'm done. Believe what you want. I'm not going any further into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
On the professional front your a pro at anything when you cash a check. You may want to be a Doctor or a star QB but if you fail to have to brain power and the work ethic you won't be a doctor and if you lack the skill set no matter how smart you are you will not be a QB.
It is no mean trick to be a student and a employee.
When in doubt insult.
1) You fail to realize that receiving something for free that would otherwise cost money is actually receiving payment. The free tuition is payment. Any additional would open cans of worms that would allow the few rich schools to buy players and make it easier for schools to cheat under the guise of payments, They do receive a hefty payment.
2) Colleges are not businesses. Most are governemnt funded non-profit organizations that main purpose is to educate young adults. Why should a college cater to a small percentage of the student body? Why should they pay extra to a small group when other students have to struggle to pay their way and earn the college money in the form of grants?
3) Where will this money come from? An overwhelming majority of athletic departments lose money. You take money from other sports, you risk alienating other students, violating Title iX. Or do you increase your paying students costs? Or do you get more money from the taxpayers? None of this is fair when you consider the NPV of a free college education that the student athletes are already being paid. This is something they are paid for their athletic ability; something that they agreed to do when they accepted the scholarship; something they could have refused and had to pay for college like most of their fellow students.
1) I don't fail to understand these players/performers are on a free ride ( scholarship) I think we all get that.It seems however that some here fail to understand the difference between elite div 1a football and high school athletics there clearly is a short fall on the comprehension of the difference
money wise from a fundraising high school car wash and a network television muti million dollar contract
based on entertainment value and advertising revenue potential. That disconnect appears to be " a bridge to far " for some to connect.
2)On the financial front div 1a football is making money like no other college sport and few other business in this country.
The argument that the schools take all of this money and spend it in some cases beyond the total revenue stream is the entire focus of the debate. The basic question is how they spend it and on whom they spend it.
3) Look at the big picture just a little closer, these schools and all of the departments spend all of their money every budget year and as a result need to raise tuition ask for more government subsidies and justify seeking a better tv contract or membership in another better paying conference. The idea of not spending more money every year
is a concept that most average Americans understand however it seems to be one that the school administrator's don't.
The distribution of these funds is the question. Div 1 a football players work and I mean work at the game and are some of the best athletes in the world that is why the schools will make over 1 billion dollars this year
off of their labor. The idea that these schools can spend it all with out a nickle going to the performers
other than expanding their education and room- board is a poor one. Department heads will always spend every dime they can so they can justify their budget every year
One upon a time in this country some folks labored in the fields for room and board some also got a free education funny most folks look back on that time with regret.
Div 1 a football treatment of its talent is above and beyond those days however the concept is not that far removed.Anyone who doesn't see Div 1a football as big business is disconnected with reality.
6/10/2011 7:34 AM (edited)