"One guy is arguing we should keep debating something that ended long ago" Scientists everywhere are laughing at the irony of this statement coming from you.
Scientists everywhere probably don't care about this message board on an internet site for sports games. Nor should they, at least about this discussion, and probably others as well.
All we have are a small group of ignorant people with torches and pitchforks ready to attack anyone who dares to go against their mainstream beliefs. If anyone enjoys that sort of thing, they can read about it all in history, back when it wasn't obvious how foolish and ignorant such close-minded people are. Those who wish to participate in such ignorance simply need to get with the times, but some of those on here act like they'd rather go backward rather than forward.
the whole credible scientific community. better?
No, it's worse, because plenty of credible scientists don't believe as you do. Obviously you haven't taken the time to find that out, and I doubt you will now. You'd rather launch attacks because your beliefs are mainstream, and I point you to what I said above about how ignorant that is.
Oh, and you still haven't named any of these alleged scientists who agree with you. You just make vague reference to discredited arguments and try to pass it off as evidence. Who are these scientific luminaries?
As I said, I'm not having a debate with people so ignorant they fit better in the 14th century than in modern times. You can look up information for yourself if you're truly interested (and I suspect you're not).
I'm fairly sure genghis and bad luck are the same person, but if they're not, they are certainly cut from the same ignorant mold.