What Is A "Fair Share" When It Comes To Taxes? Topic

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Posted by antonsirius on 7/30/2011 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.
So, you want a 100% estate tax then? That's the only way opportunity could possibly be distributed evenly.




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7/30/2011 9:05 PM
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Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.

One person works and makes x dollars.  Another doesnt' work and makes x dollars.  That's a "fair share"?  Distributed by whom?  What consequences do you see?

I can only guess your post is baiting because you can't be serious.

7/30/2011 9:29 PM
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I would call it joking rather than baiting, but yes, I am not serious.
7/30/2011 11:18 PM
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Posted by silentpadna on 7/30/2011 9:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.

One person works and makes x dollars.  Another doesnt' work and makes x dollars.  That's a "fair share"?  Distributed by whom?  What consequences do you see?

I can only guess your post is baiting because you can't be serious.

One couple both work 40 hours a week and between them earn about 150k a year they are in the 28% bracket
Another couple lends the .gov money via municipal bonds and also earns 150k they are in the 0 % bracket.
That's a 'fair share?'

7/30/2011 11:54 PM
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Posted by antonsirius on 7/30/2011 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.
So, you want a 100% estate tax then? That's the only way opportunity could possibly be distributed evenly.
How about a 100% estate tax on everything over 100 million dollars and minimal if any tax on amounts below that?

7/30/2011 11:56 PM
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Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 9:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by antonsirius on 7/30/2011 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.
So, you want a 100% estate tax then? That's the only way opportunity could possibly be distributed evenly.




You may want to get one of these.
My apologies. The problem was, your sarcasm was indistinguishable from the usual libertarian/Objectivist rhetoric.
7/31/2011 9:19 AM
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Posted by combalt on 7/30/2011 11:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 7/30/2011 9:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.

One person works and makes x dollars.  Another doesnt' work and makes x dollars.  That's a "fair share"?  Distributed by whom?  What consequences do you see?

I can only guess your post is baiting because you can't be serious.

One couple both work 40 hours a week and between them earn about 150k a year they are in the 28% bracket
Another couple lends the .gov money via municipal bonds and also earns 150k they are in the 0 % bracket.
That's a 'fair share?'

You're leaving context out  of course.  One is risking nothing and expending effort for earnings.  The other is risking capital on money they've already earned - using an opportunity that is avialable to both.  Income tax and capital gains tax are two different things.  But then, you already knew that.
7/31/2011 9:20 AM
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Posted by combalt on 7/30/2011 11:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by antonsirius on 7/30/2011 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.
So, you want a 100% estate tax then? That's the only way opportunity could possibly be distributed evenly.
How about a 100% estate tax on everything over 100 million dollars and minimal if any tax on amounts below that?

You'd be amazed under that system how many estates end up being worth $99,999,999.99
7/31/2011 9:21 AM
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Posted by silentpadna on 7/31/2011 9:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by combalt on 7/30/2011 11:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 7/30/2011 9:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.

One person works and makes x dollars.  Another doesnt' work and makes x dollars.  That's a "fair share"?  Distributed by whom?  What consequences do you see?

I can only guess your post is baiting because you can't be serious.

One couple both work 40 hours a week and between them earn about 150k a year they are in the 28% bracket
Another couple lends the .gov money via municipal bonds and also earns 150k they are in the 0 % bracket.
That's a 'fair share?'

You're leaving context out  of course.  One is risking nothing and expending effort for earnings.  The other is risking capital on money they've already earned - using an opportunity that is avialable to both.  Income tax and capital gains tax are two different things.  But then, you already knew that.
Why are you assuming couple B earned their money?
7/31/2011 9:22 AM
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Could you please give us your definition of "earned their money"? From your tone, I believe that it should be applied to everyone worldwide as law.
7/31/2011 9:39 AM
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Little early to be drinking, isn't it death?
7/31/2011 11:03 AM
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Waiting.
THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT TO THINK!!!
7/31/2011 11:45 AM
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Does it? No wonder it's such a mess, if it's waiting for me. I have enough trouble governing myself.
7/31/2011 11:57 AM
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1 The "Rich" currently pay almost all of our governments bills.

2 We have alwas raised taxes to make the government do more. ALWAYS!

3 The idea that the first time we cut all these crucial programs will go away is a joke. We have fat and it needs to be cut. If your family income dropped 5% would you cancel your car insurance and stop going to the dentist or lower your cable package and eat out less?
7/31/2011 1:13 PM
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Posted by antonsirius on 7/31/2011 9:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 9:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by antonsirius on 7/30/2011 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 1899_spiders on 7/30/2011 6:09:00 PM (view original):
A fair share is when wealth and opportunity is distributed evenly among the people. This needs to happen, no matter what the consequences.
So, you want a 100% estate tax then? That's the only way opportunity could possibly be distributed evenly.




You may want to get one of these.
My apologies. The problem was, your sarcasm was indistinguishable from the usual libertarian/Objectivist rhetoric.
No worries.
7/31/2011 2:36 PM
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