Posted by tecwrg on 5/7/2013 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 5/7/2013 11:08:00 AM (view original):Are you saying that post-Civil War America was ready to openly accept blacks fully as equals in 1865?
Posted by tecwrg on 5/7/2013 10:47:00 AM (view original):You're going at it in the wrong direction. With the benefit of hindsight, we know that not giving blacks full equal rights was wrong, the incremental step was a mistake. In a much shorter time period, we're going to look back on this and see that it was a mistake not to give gays full marriage rights.
Posted by bad_luck on 5/7/2013 10:24:00 AM (view original):That's not my argument. You're the one equating blacks and gays. I'm just playing along with your analogy.
Posted by tecwrg on 5/7/2013 10:19:00 AM (view original):So you think it was a good thing that blacks didnt get full rights right away?
They're comparable in this way:
1) First, blacks were slaves and had no rights.
2) Then, they were given "separate but equal rights" for many, many, many years
3) Then, they achieved full rights.
So if you insist on applying the course of the civil rights movement for blacks to the SSM movement, you should be OK with moving from step 1 to step 2 as an incremental step, and not trying to move directly from step 1 to step 3 while skipping step 2 altogether.
But what the heck . . . do you think blacks would have been happier if slavery existed for another 100 years or so until they suddenly got full equality?
You're monumentally ******* stupid if that's what you're trying to say.
In fact, that might be the stupidest thing you've ever posted in these forums.
What America was or wasn't ready for is really irrelevant. You see that it was a mistake, as recently as 50 years ago, that we were treating blacks differently, right? Separate but equal was wrong.
Gays were never slaves. Gays were never lynched. Gays have it much better than pre-civil rights blacks did. The situations aren't the same, but they are comparable because we know that separate but equal is not the right way to do things.