Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly.
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:11:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly."As much" or at all?
Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2013 10:18:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:11:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly."As much" or at all?Do you understand the meaning of the term "appearance of a conflict of interest"?
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:16:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:11:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly."As much" or at all?As much. Any ruling when it comes to a social issue will probably affect the judge in a personal way. I'm not gay, and I'd have to put aside my personal beliefs in making a decision if I were a judge.
Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2013 10:29:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?No. There are plenty of straight people who would have been open to SSM who would have been able to rule strictly on the merits of the case without any personal interest in the outcome. I assume some of them are judges in the State of California.
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:23:00 AM (view original):Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2013 10:18:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:11:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly."As much" or at all?Do you understand the meaning of the term "appearance of a conflict of interest"?I understand that your throwing "appearance" in to hedge. Do you think there's an "actual" conflict of interest?
Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2013 10:31:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:23:00 AM (view original):Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2013 10:18:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:11:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:10:00 AM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 10:08:00 AM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 10:05:00 AM (view original):Gay judge in a law-term same sex relationship who possibly wants to be married has a chance to make a decision on whether he's legally allowed to get married. Yes, there's a possible conflict of interest.That same conflict wouldn't exist for straight judge ruling for prop 8?I get what you're saying. But Prop 8 doesn't affect the straight judge on a personal level as much as the gay judge. The gay judge who wants to be married will have a much harder time ruling on Prop 8 fairly."As much" or at all?Do you understand the meaning of the term "appearance of a conflict of interest"?I understand that your throwing "appearance" in to hedge. Do you think there's an "actual" conflict of interest?It doesn't matter if there is or isn't. The appearance alone should put the integrity of the decision on shaky ground.
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