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10/3/2013 2:12 PM
Senate passed a budget, the house passed a budget, the Senate tried 18 TIMES since MARCH to have a conference committee, and it got blocked every time by Senate Republicans.

Obviously Democrats fault.
10/3/2013 2:14 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/3/2013 2:11:00 PM (view original):
Do you have access to the internet?   Look up "government budgeting process".  
I know what happened. I'm curious how you think it's the democrats fault. The CR would pass if the GOP didn't insist that it include language defunding the ACA.
10/3/2013 2:35 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2013 1:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 10/3/2013 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/3/2013 1:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/3/2013 1:12:00 PM (view original):
Good point.  Except I've been a small business owner since '97.

Sometimes change requires a little pain.    For the American public to wake up and stop voting in the same people over and over, we need a lot of pain.
Sarcasm, dumb ***.

You are right though, the House GOP should be thrown out of office for this next election.

They won't though, because of gerrymandering. So all this pain will be for nothing.
Are you giving the Senate Democrats a free pass?

They ALL need to be thrown out. 
Do the Senate Democrats deserve blame for the shut down? I don't think so. If the only concession that the Republicans will accept is the defunding/delay of the ACA, then I don't know what option Democrats have.

House Republicans dug this hole, it's on them.
The House presented something to the Senate to keep the government open.  The Senate Democrats voted it down.  Democrat Obama draws a line in the sand, refuses to negotiate, says "it's MY way or the highway".

There's plenty of blame to go around.  It doesn't all go to the House GOP.

10/3/2013 2:40 PM
Senate voted on the House bills, it failed. House refuses to vote on the Senate bill.
10/3/2013 2:43 PM
But the only option was to defund the ACA. That's certainly a choice, but it isn't one Democrats should have taken.

10/3/2013 2:43 PM
Posted by stinenavy on 10/3/2013 2:40:00 PM (view original):
Senate voted on the House bills, it failed. House refuses to vote on the Senate bill.
That too.
10/3/2013 3:05 PM
It's retarded to assign 100% of the blame to one party.
10/3/2013 3:10 PM
10/3/2013 3:15 PM
Because the Democrats are just as stubborn and pig-headed as the Republicans.

10/3/2013 3:18 PM
I think it's retarded to automatically assume everyone is at fault.

If the dems insisted that the CR included a 90% tax rate for anyone making over $100,000, would a the GOP be at fault for refusing?
10/3/2013 3:38 PM
If there were popular support for such a tax rate, as there is for the defunding of Obamacare, then yes, they would be at fault for refusing to negotiate.
10/3/2013 3:41 PM
Oh, if Dems put a proposal for a gun control measure and refuse to back down on it, including putting the government into shut down over it, then it's completely okay.
10/3/2013 3:43 PM
No.  It's not OK to shutdown the government over gun control.  Likewise, it's also not OK to shutdown the government over Obamacare.
10/3/2013 3:43 PM
If in 2007 when the Dems took over the House and Senate, if they refused to budge over defunding the Iraq War (which had a 33% approval), there's not a chance in hell you would blame "both sides" over a government shutdown.
10/3/2013 3:45 PM
So if there was a shutdown because the Dems wanted a gun control measure, you would blame both sides?
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