Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

Retard.

In gin we found a retard.

Just because a few of them read at our high level of intelligence….has no bearing on their understanding of the facts. Garbage in - garbage out.

That's why we talk to them over and over but they never can, or refuse to get it. It's a lifetime of poison and propaganda that has diseased and consumed
their reason, which is GOD given and distributed to every infant and soul. And theirs is now to the point of not caring or in stiff necked denial. The longer the journey from truth, the farther it is from home. And that is why we refuse their direction. They themselves are lost. Common sense precludes me from listening or considering any words from the lips of a proven liar or their pack of usurpers. I will, however, look forward to and embrace Happy Bunny.

Posted by sjpoker on 6/26/2016 6:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

Retard.

In gin we found a retard.

Jesus worshipped the seven-faced god. It is known.

Gettin reeeeaaaal ugly for Trump:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

I'm "the" Christ lover? Think you miscounted by a couple billion. I am proud to be one of them though.

Trump the Anti-Christ?

Posted by RCBracco on 6/27/2016 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Trump the Anti-Christ?

Only if you're an illegal, or maybe a Muslim.
I'd ask, isn't the person under Federal investigation probably closer to the anti-Christ?

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

I'm "the" Christ lover? Think you miscounted by a couple billion. I am proud to be one of them though.

Is that really something to be proud of? Did you have to work hard to do it or something? You know, to join a club that will take anyone?

What an accomplishment!

At least Jews are bred for it.

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/27/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

I'm "the" Christ lover? Think you miscounted by a couple billion. I am proud to be one of them though.

Is that really something to be proud of? Did you have to work hard to do it or something? You know, to join a club that will take anyone?

What an accomplishment!

At least Jews are bred for it.

Yes.

It's free.

Lasts forever.

Everybody is welcome.

First, the New York Times headline: "Donald Trump Slips Further Behind Hillary Clinton in New Polls." Now, hang on just a second. There are a couple of polls out. One of them shows Trump back down double digits. I think it's ABC News/Washington Post.

Then there's another poll that shows Hillary only up one. But wait. Before I get to the details, there's another polling story here. Our old buddies at TheFederalist.com. You ready for this? Headline: "No, The Polls Aren’t Biased. Clinton Really Is Leading Trump." It's by Emily Ekins. This is how she opens the piece: "The conservative blogosphere is lighting up again with accusations of polling bias against Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in his race against Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton. However, Trump supporters should avoid giving into this temptation to assume unfavorable results must be biased results. Clinton really is leading Trump, and by nearly 6 percentage points." And you better believe it. You better accept it 'cause it's not made up.

"The blogospherian argument goes something like this: Clinton is leading Trump by 5 to 7 points in certain polls because the pollsters oversampled or over-weighted Democrats by about 5 to 7 points. If the polls are 'corrected' to include fewer Democrats, then the race is actually tied, they say.

"For instance, one blogger argues that a recent CBS News poll inflated the number of Democrats in the poll, comprised of 28 percent Republicans and 35 percent Democrats. Citing one pollster’s calculation, she thinks party identification in the United States is closer to parity, with 28 percent Republicans and only 29 percent Democrats rather than a seven-point Democratic advantage. She reasons that if you erase the partisan gap that would erase Clinton’s six-point lead over Trump.

For Trump supporters, this is a tempting narrative to believe. But this simply isn’t so. The fact is there just are more Democrats out there than Republicans, and this has largely been the case at least since the New Deal," and you better accept it, she says. "That obviously doesn’t mean Democrats always win, but it’s unwise to assume a pollster is biased because its sample included more Democrats than Republicans."

Then she goes on to say and talk about how she's studied poll after poll after poll, and she has found that hundreds of polls, aggregated nearly 100 different pollsters finds the average Democrat makeup of any poll is 34.8% and 28% Republican. Roughly six-point advantage. Very similar to CBS. Her point is that, look, I've studied a hundred pills pols, and they all have the same six- to seven-point Democrat advantage because there are six to seven more Democrats identified than there are Republicans. Interesting when you go liberal conservative, it's not even close. Almost twice as many people identify as conservatives as liberals, but they don't poll that way. They poll party identification.

Now, there are exceptions to this. We've found polls that sample Democrat majority of 20%. They're bad polls. A lot of polls have gotten it wrong, starting in, well, 2010, 2014. A lot of the Brexit polls were so bad, it's not even funny. But some of the polls have been right. So, anyway, Miss Ekin's points here is, you Trumpists, do not lie to yourselves like the Romney people did. The Romney people went into the 2012 election thinking the polls were wrong by five or six points, thought Romney was gonna win. It turns out the polls were right on the money. Don't lie to yourselves, is her point.

Okay, that takes me back to the original story here. New York Times: "Donald Trump Slips Further Behind Hillary Clinton in New Poll." However, let me read to you a paragraph in this story. This poll, by the way, shows Clinton with a... Well, let's review the data before I get to that paragraph. "A Washington Post-ABC News survey had Mrs. Clinton with a double-digit lead: 51% to 39%. A Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll had Mrs. Clinton with a smaller advantage of five percentage points.

"Both polls, released on Sunday, showed Mr. Trump in worse shape than he had been a month ago, as voters in the latest polls expressed doubts about his preparedness and qualifications to lead the nation." Isn't that increasingly curious, given that's exactly what Hillary Clinton is saying? Well, here's the paragraph: "Despite his woes, not all the results of the new polls were heartening for Mrs. Clinton.

"The Journal-NBC survey found that her lead essentially disappears when candidates from the Green Party and Libertarian Party are included. She essentially tied Mr. Trump, with 39% to his 38%. Together, third-party candidates grabbed 16% of the support." Well, isn't that kind of relevant? Because the libertarian candidate is not going away, right? Gary Johnson, he's gonna be there. So doesn't this paragraph kind of undo the headline, "Donald Trump Slips Further Behind Hillary Clinton in New Polls"? If it's just Trump and Hillary, yeah

But if you throw the other candidates in there, she's reduced to a one-point margin. I don't know if these candidates are gonna hold up all through the campaign or what have you. But the point that she's trying to make is that all of you Trumpists out there, "Don't lie to yourselves when you see your guy down in the polls. It's a mistake to lie to yourself and tell yourselves they're not true because they're biased. You better accept it and deal with it, and Trump better accept it and deal with it so as to fix it."

In the New York Post, Michael Walsh: "Five Things Trump Must Do to Win the Election," and I'm just gonna go through the five. I'm not gonna read every point made about the five. "First, keep pummeling Hillary. Second, learn a lesson from John McCain and Mitt Romney. The Maverick was a media darling until he had the effrontery to run against The One in 2008, while Romney was transformed from a successful Mormon businessman into a rapacious ogre. Overwhelmingly Democratic and partisan, the media votes with its pens and cameras every day..."

Do not rely on overwhelming, constant media coverage to cover for you, Mr. Trump. "Third, skip the 'gotcha' game." You know, don't go out there playing Twitter games with Hillary. Stick to the issues. "Fourth, make it clear to the junior wing of the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party, who's boss now." This is what Walsh calls the Republican Party: "the junior wing of the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party." That's his way of describing the Washington establishment.

And number 5: "[B]e yourself..."

So FOX is giving Warren **** for making fun of Trump and his hats.

Did they miss the entire campaign Trump ran?

All that can be translated to - Polls are worthless, especially over 4 months prior to voting. Pretty sure several people here have been saying that for the last several months.

Posted by DougOut on 6/27/2016 6:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/27/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gin_caesar on 6/26/2016 6:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/26/2016 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Hey, wasn't that Jesus guy a Jew?

Christlover.

Found the Christ lover.

I'm "the" Christ lover? Think you miscounted by a couple billion. I am proud to be one of them though.

Is that really something to be proud of? Did you have to work hard to do it or something? You know, to join a club that will take anyone?

What an accomplishment!

At least Jews are bred for it.

Yes.

It's free.

Lasts forever.

Everybody is welcome.

Yes everyone is welcome, but it's not free, and it doesn't last for ever if you don't abide by the rules. Much as claiming to be an astronaut doesn't make you one, claiming to be a Christ lover doesn't make you one either. Obviously you don't understand and probably never will. So sad for you. Maybe you can join Hillary's radical Muslims and be part of their take-over of America.