Honestly, our culture is almost like public school education.   They teach to the slowest kid in class so he doesn't get left behind.    This entire thread is dedicated to how to make sure that same kid doesn't get left behind now that he's all grown up.   Sometimes people just have to be left behind for the greater good.   And while that sucks for them, you can only do so much to make sure they're part of the pack.

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 5:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/26/2014 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 4:54:00 PM (view original):
It's not a good excuse, I agree.

To me almost everything boils down to education (including financial, nutritional, etc). Educated people are wealthier, healthier, and make better life decisions. Solve that problem and most other problems are solved. The attention is unfortunately always directed elsewhere... Whether its wars, class, race, or minimum wage.

It's a great point.  How do we solve that problem? 

Public execution of the dumb.   We'll start with BL as he's willingly dumb.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2014 5:13:00 PM (view original):
Honestly, our culture is almost like public school education.   They teach to the slowest kid in class so he doesn't get left behind.    This entire thread is dedicated to how to make sure that same kid doesn't get left behind now that he's all grown up.   Sometimes people just have to be left behind for the greater good.   And while that sucks for them, you can only do so much to make sure they're part of the pack.

Yea, philosophical differences.  Assuming this kid/adult is actually trying.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2014 4:21:00 PM (view original):
That sounds like tax policy, not war.

"I need to stop these 1000x salaries" is tax policy?

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2014 5:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 5:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/26/2014 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 4:54:00 PM (view original):
It's not a good excuse, I agree.

To me almost everything boils down to education (including financial, nutritional, etc). Educated people are wealthier, healthier, and make better life decisions. Solve that problem and most other problems are solved. The attention is unfortunately always directed elsewhere... Whether its wars, class, race, or minimum wage.

It's a great point.  How do we solve that problem? 

Public execution of the dumb.   We'll start with BL as he's willingly dumb.

That's one way.  And would lead to a smarter society in the future.

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 5:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2014 5:13:00 PM (view original):
Honestly, our culture is almost like public school education.   They teach to the slowest kid in class so he doesn't get left behind.    This entire thread is dedicated to how to make sure that same kid doesn't get left behind now that he's all grown up.   Sometimes people just have to be left behind for the greater good.   And while that sucks for them, you can only do so much to make sure they're part of the pack.

Yea, philosophical differences.  Assuming this kid/adult is actually trying.

How do we determine "effort"?

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 5:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/26/2014 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2014 4:54:00 PM (view original):
It's not a good excuse, I agree.

To me almost everything boils down to education (including financial, nutritional, etc). Educated people are wealthier, healthier, and make better life decisions. Solve that problem and most other problems are solved. The attention is unfortunately always directed elsewhere... Whether its wars, class, race, or minimum wage.

It's a great point.  How do we solve that problem? 

tough challenge considering how much influence the media (tv and internet). hollywood, and the music industry currently have on children. Rapping about money, cash, hoes doesn't necessarily scream 'education is cool'. its also tough because many families now a days need 2 working parents to do more than just get by so where is the discipline at home.

i'll have to give it some thought...

If you have kids, one parent has to stay at home.  If you can't afford to do that, don't have kids.

If you're single parent, we'll execute you and your child along with the dumb people.

i say that partly tongue in cheek but, if both parents HAVE work, they shouldn't have kids.    Or they can sacrifice a few material items to raise said kids.   Don't tell me you and your wife are living check to check while eating on the cheap and driving a beater. 

I'm just saying you're making choices, like poor people smoking, for what you just described as a "lack of discipline at home."

One can't be high and mighty on the choices of others without someone taking a swing at them.

Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2014 5:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2014 4:21:00 PM (view original):
That sounds like tax policy, not war.

"I need to stop these 1000x salaries" is tax policy?

Close enough. It's policy regulating wages.

Not war.

What's the purpose of regulating wages?

Is this the USSR?

Posted by tecwrg on 6/26/2014 8:20:00 PM (view original):
What's the purpose of regulating wages?

Is this the USSR?

Wages are already regulated. As are a ton of other employer/employee things. Do you think you already live in Russia?

My wages are not regulated.  WTF are you talking about?