Posted by sgmedia on 5/7/2015 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I have a problem with not being able to reset my 0 ADV with only one of my teams.  Most of my teams I made my bed and now have to lie in it...but my team in Billy Beane I took over just a couple of weeks ago, in the playoffs, and it had a 0 ADV budget.  I have a problem with the fact that I took that on with no knowledge that the update was coming, and now cannot change it to accommodate the update and never had any of the perceived pre-update benefits of it.  I'm sure that's a rare scenario, but there must be at least a few people who will be affected very negatively by that, and whom WIS should allow to reset their budgets.

Posted by sgmedia on 5/7/2015 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I have a problem with not being able to reset my 0 ADV with only one of my teams.  Most of my teams I made my bed and now have to lie in it...but my team in Billy Beane I took over just a couple of weeks ago, in the playoffs, and it had a 0 ADV budget.  I have a problem with the fact that I took that on with no knowledge that the update was coming, and now cannot change it to accommodate the update and never had any of the perceived pre-update benefits of it.  I'm sure that's a rare scenario, but there must be at least a few people who will be affected very negatively by that, and whom WIS should allow to reset their budgets.

Posted by themergerguy on 5/7/2015 5:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by sgmedia on 5/7/2015 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I have a problem with not being able to reset my 0 ADV with only one of my teams.  Most of my teams I made my bed and now have to lie in it...but my team in Billy Beane I took over just a couple of weeks ago, in the playoffs, and it had a 0 ADV budget.  I have a problem with the fact that I took that on with no knowledge that the update was coming, and now cannot change it to accommodate the update and never had any of the perceived pre-update benefits of it.  I'm sure that's a rare scenario, but there must be at least a few people who will be affected very negatively by that, and whom WIS should allow to reset their budgets.

I couldn't disagree more.
You had the pre-update benefit of having 20M being spent elsewhere.
It is no different than the rest of your teams.
If you HAD been running the team for 3 seasons or more it would be at 0.

It is really not a game changer in terms of hurting current owners with 0 advanced. It will take awhile to get to a reasonable number, but as is already being discussed some will play the wait and see game anyway. It doesn't hurt your current players at all. It doesn't affect your HS/College projections at all. It doesn't hurt your IFA scouting at all. All it hurts is your ability to "project other teams prospects for a few seasons. 

It makes ADV Scouting more relevant but I seriously don't buy that it is somehow a devastating blow to the owners running 0 for the last 20+ seasons.

Posted by mik182bre on 5/7/2015 5:45:00 PM (view original):
I would also like to know.  Will a draft prospect's projections be based on HS/Coll scouting $$ or Adv scouting $$?

I believe in the past HS/Coll $$ provided more accurate projections for potential draftees while ADV provided projections for players currently on your(or someone elses) roster. I would see better projections for my draftees because I put more money there. Once they signed I would see a change because of 0 ADV, but it seems the HS/Coll projections were more accurate.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/7/2015 6:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by themergerguy on 5/7/2015 5:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by sgmedia on 5/7/2015 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I have a problem with not being able to reset my 0 ADV with only one of my teams.  Most of my teams I made my bed and now have to lie in it...but my team in Billy Beane I took over just a couple of weeks ago, in the playoffs, and it had a 0 ADV budget.  I have a problem with the fact that I took that on with no knowledge that the update was coming, and now cannot change it to accommodate the update and never had any of the perceived pre-update benefits of it.  I'm sure that's a rare scenario, but there must be at least a few people who will be affected very negatively by that, and whom WIS should allow to reset their budgets.

I couldn't disagree more.
You had the pre-update benefit of having 20M being spent elsewhere.
It is no different than the rest of your teams.
If you HAD been running the team for 3 seasons or more it would be at 0.

It is really not a game changer in terms of hurting current owners with 0 advanced. It will take awhile to get to a reasonable number, but as is already being discussed some will play the wait and see game anyway. It doesn't hurt your current players at all. It doesn't affect your HS/College projections at all. It doesn't hurt your IFA scouting at all. All it hurts is your ability to "project other teams prospects for a few seasons. 

It makes ADV Scouting more relevant but I seriously don't buy that it is somehow a devastating blow to the owners running 0 for the last 20+ seasons.

In a sick way, I hope you're wrong.

I hope ADV affects all domestic/international prospect projections.    The HS/Coll/IFA could show how MANY of those you see while ADV gives the accurate projections.   THAT would make ADV important.

That would be a little bit of a kick in the sack for us 0 ADV guys but, if you're in MG/Coop, we're all starting at the same point.  

Posted by rwings1927 on 5/7/2015 6:03:00 PM (view original):
My feelings are if they're going to try and coerce you into putting more money into scouting then they should include fixing the injury issue's so we don't have to keep dumping 20M into training and medical and free up some budget space.

No one is forced to put $ into training or medical.   There are a lot of 0 medical owners out there.    Not so many 0 training because it affects development.

Posted by rwings1927 on 5/7/2015 6:03:00 PM (view original):
My feelings are if they're going to try and coerce you into putting more money into scouting then they should include fixing the injury issue's so we don't have to keep dumping 20M into training and medical and free up some budget space.

Posted by rbedwell on 5/7/2015 6:08:00 PM (view original):
In the long run, owners will get about the same results as they always have. There might be a slight transition period, and maybe this will inject a bit more luck into it. But it will still come down to effort spent analyzing the game and individual ability to analyze.