Obama: Worst President Ever? Topic

He also didn't want the Jews from Germany before the war. Typical racist Democrap.
3/25/2016 10:59 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 1/30/2016 12:53:00 PM (view original):
You guys have given me a lot of **** for about a forum page.

Nobody has even tried to pretend they can refute the point.

Military response made things worse.  Period.  You can make all the bullshit tangential responses you want.  The point is irrefutable.  Military action led to more, bigger, and better-funded terror organizations than ever existed before.  Again, this is an unambiguous fact, which is why nobody is addressing the actual point.

Obama’s CIA Director John Brennan admitted during his speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies that George Bush had decimated ISIS and that the terrorist group had grown by as much as 4,400 percent under Barack Obama.
3/29/2016 8:35 AM

In a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies yesterday, CIA director John Brennan made a startling admission: The Islamic State was “decimated” under George W. Bush and had just “700-or-so adherents left” following the surge in Iraq. Said Brennan:

[ISIS] was, you know, pretty much decimated when US forces were there in Iraq. It had maybe 700-or-so adherents left. And then it grew quite a bit in the last several years, when it split then from al-Qaida in Syria, and set up its own organization.

But in September 2014, a CIA analysis found that:

[ISIS] can muster between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters across Iraq and Syria … This new total reflects an increase in members because of stronger recruitment since June following battlefield successes and the declaration of a caliphate, greater battlefield activity, and additional intelligence.

This means that, by the CIA’s own estimate, ISIS has grown on President Obama’s watch from just 700 fighters to between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters.

That is an increase of between 2,700 and 4,400 %.

Moreover, Brennan tacitly acknowledged that the Obama administration had underestimated the ISIS threat. At CSIS, Brennan declared that:

Not content to limiting its killing fields to Iraqi and Syrian lands, and to setting up local franchises in other countries of the Middle East, South Asia and Africa, ISIL has developed an external operations agenda that is now implementing … with lethal effect.

3/29/2016 8:37 AM
Dahs.... Military action had ISIS 'decimated'.... Obama's own CIA directors own words. He states there were 700 members of isis remaining after the surge. Obama withdraws the u.s. military and now Isis has 30000 troops. One could easily argue that military INACTION caused the rise a present-day Isis........ Or do you think the the CIA director is lying?
3/29/2016 8:45 AM
IT'S IN HIS DNA. IT ALSO COUNTERS REPUGS CONTENTION THAT OBAMA CREATED ISIS. HOW COULD THEY BE AROUND TO BE DECIMATED IF THEY HADN'T BEEN CREATED YET?

IRAQ 2003
3/29/2016 8:51 AM
Posted by moy23 on 3/29/2016 8:45:00 AM (view original):
Dahs.... Military action had ISIS 'decimated'.... Obama's own CIA directors own words. He states there were 700 members of isis remaining after the surge. Obama withdraws the u.s. military and now Isis has 30000 troops. One could easily argue that military INACTION caused the rise a present-day Isis........ Or do you think the the CIA director is lying?
Unfortunately the forums have changed since then, so there's nothing to quote, but some may recall that I predicted during the 2008 election - in these forums - that withdrawal of troops from Iraq would create a power vacuum that Al Qa'ida would exploit to form a new power base and rebuild. I was off a little bit on the identity of the terrorist organization, but it was easy to see that coming. Nobody is arguing with you about this.

But never invading Iraq in the first place would have worked just as well. As I suggested before, a tyrannical dictator like Saddam isn't letting ISIS run free in his country's territory.
3/29/2016 10:18 PM
Of course, I also predicted at that time that Obama wouldn't be stupid enough to follow through on troop withdrawals if he were elected. You win some, you lose some.
3/29/2016 10:19 PM
How can you be sure that ISIS doesn't gain a foothold if Iraq isn't invaded? First, Saddam would be close to 80 and I'm sure Uday, the crazy son, would have been his successor. He might have encouraged, funded or led ISIS by now. Second, maybe ISIS simply gains prominence in nearby areas. Let's not pretend that we're talking about a stable region.

Unless it's your contention that ISIS ONLY came into being because of the invasion of Iraq.
3/30/2016 9:25 AM
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Nearly one-third of Republican primary voters don't think Muslims should serve in the U.S. military, according to a national poll conducted by Public Policy Polling.



AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE PRESIDENT EITHER!!!!! IMPEACH OBAMA!!!!! REPEAL ALL THE BULLSHIT LAWS HE'S SIGNED THAT ****** AMERICA!!!!
3/30/2016 3:51 PM
Current Poll on the front page of MSN.com

Is the United States better off since Barack Obama became president?

  • 29%
    Yes, better off
  • 11%
    About the same
  • 57%
    No, things are worse
  • 3%
    I’m not sure
3/30/2016 6:39 PM
"JAIL ALL DRUGGIES"---- RUSH LIMBURGHER
3/31/2016 5:46 AM
THEY ARE ALL DEALERS, NOT USERS
3/31/2016 7:30 AM
WHY DID RUSH NEED 3000 OXY PILLS?
3/31/2016 7:49 AM
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