so you like Obamacare ? Topic

They are not.   Do you want the government to control the rates of private medical facilities?   If so, what's your problem with Obamacare?   Government intervention is government intervention.
2/22/2013 8:38 AM
My problem with Obamacare all along is that it doesn't address the real problem with healthcare in the U.S., which is out of control costs.  All it does is throw money at all already bloated and broken system.

"The health care industry seems to have the will and the means to keep it that way. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the pharmaceutical and health-care-product industries, combined with organizations representing doctors, hospitals, nursing homes, health services and HMOs, have spent $5.36 billion since 1998 on lobbying in Washington. That dwarfs the $1.53 billion spent by the defense and aerospace industries and the $1.3 billion spent by oil and gas interests over the same period. That’s right: the health-care-industrial complex spends more than three times what the military-industrial complex spends in Washington."

2/22/2013 8:46 AM
I think Obamacare exacerbates the problem.    Regardless of what doctors/hospitals charge, insurance companies are NOT losing money.   By requiring everyone to have insurance, you're almost giving health insurance companies carte blanche on premiums. 

I'm not necessarily against univeral insurance.   But the way we're going about it is borderline retarded. 
2/22/2013 9:33 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/22/2013 9:33:00 AM (view original):
I think Obamacare exacerbates the problem.    Regardless of what doctors/hospitals charge, insurance companies are NOT losing money.   By requiring everyone to have insurance, you're almost giving health insurance companies carte blanche on premiums. 

I'm not necessarily against univeral insurance.   But the way we're going about it is borderline retarded. 
Agree completely.

The reason why insurance companies are not losing money is because they're passing the costs back to their customers, via the premiums we pay and the company subsidies that our employers pay as job benefits to us.

There's a lot of money flowing through the health care system, a lot of profits being made, and in the end it's all coming from one place . . . our wallets.

I'd probably be OK with Obamacare if it was done ON TOP of fixing the problem of out of control costs and profits by the medical industry, to fill whatever gaps may remain.  But it should not be considered an end in and of itself, or any kind of "solution" to anything.  It's not.

Unfortunately, too many people think it is, and don't want to accept otherwise.  They don't want to admit to themselves that the Emperor has no clothes.
2/22/2013 9:49 AM
Unfortunately, because it WILL be better than current for many, we might get locked into it for an extended period. 
2/22/2013 10:31 AM
I think the politicians should throw out the health care program that they live under and join the rest of the populace using the same system we are being forced to use. Bet that would lead to some corrections in the health care system! 
2/22/2013 12:13 PM
3/23/2013 8:21 PM
Posted by bheid408 on 2/22/2013 12:13:00 PM (view original):
I think the politicians should throw out the health care program that they live under and join the rest of the populace using the same system we are being forced to use. Bet that would lead to some corrections in the health care system! 
That is a myth

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/congress-exempt-from-health-bill/
3/24/2013 8:27 AM
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