Ha, well that colors me dumb, I must have scrolled over it without thinking. To the point about others doing research for someone I guess we don't need 50% of the threads in this forum. Won't go through to look where condescending gentlemen asked for information, I will just assume they are all knowing gods of some sort. As you notice in my post I was calling myself out for being forgetful and dumb, didn't need tools to help. Thanks though, internet forum poster powers away!