Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:43:00 PM (view original):The deficit is a fine talking point/scare tactic. "OMG, IT'S 16 TRILLION!!!!"
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:33:00 PM (view original):I guess I just disagree. The economy (not the deficit) is the strongest argument against re-electing Obama. Doing anything at all that could possibly improve the economy (6 weeks is enough time to see a small improvement, especially coupled with QE3) is counterproductive to the goal of getting Romney in the White House.
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):Here's the problem with that theory:
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):No, but even a small improvement or the perception of coming improvement helps Obama. Romney is already a long shot, the Republicans can't allow jobs bills to pass with the election less than two months away.
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away.
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?
Are you stupid, drunk or both? Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November? Really?
Nothing will change, jobs-wise, over the next 6 weeks regardless of what bill passes. So the thinking public sees this for what it is:
Liberal side: "WE'RE TRYING BUT THE REPUBS ARE BLOCKING US!!!'
Conservative side: "THE BILL WAS LOADED WITH PORK. THE DEFICIT IS OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT BILL MAKES IT WORSE!!!"
There's no winner/loser in the passing or rejection of the bill. Had it passed, here you go:
Libs: "WE DID IT!!!! JOBS FOR VETERANS!!!"
Cons: "We let it go thru to help the Vets but it's full of pork. We just passed it out of respect for our veterans."
Even if they truly believed that the bill wouldn't help, the chance that it might, or the chance that the economy will improve coincidentally (and allow Democrats to claim success with the bill), forced the Republicans to block it.
Over 8% is another. It's countered with "1%" and "Multi-millionaire" on the other side.
People don't have to understand everything, they just need to understand enough.
Eh, talking points are bullshit. We all know the Republicans don't really
care about the deficit and the Democrats don't really
care about income inequality. The legislative records for both sides make that fairly clear.
The only thing both sides care about is staying in power. And, right now, doing anything at all to improve the economy helps the Democrats stay in the White House and hurts the Republicans.