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8/2/2013 7:57 AM
For ****'s sake, did badluck just say "MLB can't have much?"   Paraphrasing, of course. 

If MLB didn't have much, ARod's peeps would say "Go **** yourself, we'll appeal whatever retarded suspension you throw out and win." 
8/2/2013 8:40 AM
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8/2/2013 8:45 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 8/1/2013 1:18:00 PM (view original):
I don't think anybody can apply a normal thought process to "What would ARod do?" because his ego, his apparent feeling of self-importance, and his apparent lack of self-awareness is so far outside the bounds of normal standards that it's impossible to predict what he will do.

One would like to think that a "normal" person would eventually have some sort of epiphany about their situation and decide that enough is enough, it's time to do the right thing and move forward.

I don't think ARod is capable of that.  At least to date, he hasn't shown that he is.
agree 100%
8/2/2013 9:38 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 8/2/2013 5:55:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/1/2013 10:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/1/2013 7:36:00 PM (view original):
Sounds like ARod's peeps and MLB's peeps are far apart in negotiations for a suspension agreement.
Whatever MLB has on Arod, it can't be terribly strong, otherwise they wouldn't be negotiating.
Once again, your ignorance is showing.

Seriously, you don't understand why a negotiated suspension is far better for MLB than a non-negotiated suspension?
Why would MLB need a negotiated suspension? If they had rock solid evidence, they would just suspend Arod and kill him at the appeal. Or, as soon as they showed it to Arod, he would quickly agee to a suspension. The fact that they are negotiating for this long makes me think the evidence is circumstantial.
8/2/2013 9:46 AM
Because they want ARod to admit to steroid use and have the story go away.  MLB looks better if he's suspended, AND A-Rod admits to ******* up again. Rather than A-Rod deny his steroid use for the rest of his life and have the story go on perpetually, like Clemens, etc.

You notice how the Braun story went away pretty quickly?

The better question is "Why would A-Rod negotiate a suspension if he did nothing wrong and the evidence MLB had was just circumstantial?"

8/2/2013 9:47 AM
only cause it's been arod 24/7 since then, to be fair
8/2/2013 9:50 AM
Posted by burnsy483 on 8/2/2013 9:47:00 AM (view original):
Because they want ARod to admit to steroid use and have the story go away.  MLB looks better if he's suspended, AND A-Rod admits to ******* up again. Rather than A-Rod deny his steroid use for the rest of his life and have the story go on perpetually, like Clemens, etc.

You notice how the Braun story went away pretty quickly?

The better question is "Why would A-Rod negotiate a suspension if he did nothing wrong and the evidence MLB had was just circumstantial?"

I'm certain he is guilty and that they have some evidence. I'm guessing that the evidence isn't very strong though, or this would have been over quicker.

Or, MLB is actually trying to ban him for life, which is ridiculous.
8/2/2013 9:56 AM
Because of the appeals process, that's why.     They suspend ARod for 50 games.   He appeals.   Story continues.    ARod agrees to 50 game suspension.   MLB moves on to their pennant races. 

And, of course, MLB is looking for more than 50 games.   I imagine, if that was their offer, ARod would have taken it.   Or not because he's delusional.   But his people are negotiating for something.  
8/2/2013 9:57 AM
You (bad_luck) are one stupid person.

Negotiated suspension: ARod accepts lesser suspension, waives his rights to appeal.  Over and done.

Non-negotiated suspension: ARod is given a much harsher suspension (perhaps a lifetime ban).  He appeals.  Lawyers, arbitrators, a lengthy and ugly process that continues to be played out in the media.  A distraction that continues to overshadow the game on the field.

Which one is better for MLB?
8/2/2013 10:30 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 8/2/2013 9:58:00 AM (view original):
You (bad_luck) are one stupid person.

Negotiated suspension: ARod accepts lesser suspension, waives his rights to appeal.  Over and done.

Non-negotiated suspension: ARod is given a much harsher suspension (perhaps a lifetime ban).  He appeals.  Lawyers, arbitrators, a lengthy and ugly process that continues to be played out in the media.  A distraction that continues to overshadow the game on the field.

Which one is better for MLB?
Not sure why you always go with name calling. If MLB wanted this to be quick and easy, they'd offer a 50 or 100 game suspension. But they're going for a lifetime ban.
8/2/2013 10:37 AM

No, they're threatening a lifetime ban in order to get ARod to agree to a shorter ban.    MLB is not negotiating in order to secure a lifetime ban. 

Do you understand "negotiations"?

And LOL@Not sure why you always go with name calling.    Really?  Did you really go with that?

8/2/2013 10:48 AM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 8/2/2013 10:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/2/2013 9:58:00 AM (view original):
You (bad_luck) are one stupid person.

Negotiated suspension: ARod accepts lesser suspension, waives his rights to appeal.  Over and done.

Non-negotiated suspension: ARod is given a much harsher suspension (perhaps a lifetime ban).  He appeals.  Lawyers, arbitrators, a lengthy and ugly process that continues to be played out in the media.  A distraction that continues to overshadow the game on the field.

Which one is better for MLB?
Not sure why you always go with name calling. If MLB wanted this to be quick and easy, they'd offer a 50 or 100 game suspension. But they're going for a lifetime ban.
You seem to think that ARod's case should be handled like everybody else's case, i.e. it's "PED only", and he should be subjected to just a 50 or 100 game suspension.

It's not.  His offenses goes way beyond PED use, if we are to believe all the reports.  That's why the Biogenesis case and impending suspensions need to be classified in two categories: ARod, and everybody else.  And that's why ARod is (presumably) being subjected to more severe punishment than everybody else.

The name calling is warranted because you're either being deliberately stubborn in refusing to acknowledge that ARod's case is not just "PED only", or you're not mentally capable enough to understand what's being reported and the implications thereof.
8/2/2013 10:48 AM
Of course Arod's case isn't PED only. But don't you think it's ironic that MLB is extra mad at Arod for trying to pay off witnesses when MLB essentially forced Bosch to turn over records against his will.

I think Arod should be dealt with like all the other players. Instead, Bud has turned him into Moby Dick.
8/2/2013 10:53 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/2/2013 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Of course Arod's case isn't PED only. But don't you think it's ironic that MLB is extra mad at Arod for trying to pay off witnesses when MLB essentially forced Bosch to turn over records against his will.

I think Arod should be dealt with like all the other players. Instead, Bud has turned him into Moby Dick.
(Shaking head in disbelief).
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