I, and many other people, made logical, well-reasoned points that demonstrated the flaws in your argument.
You attempted to do so, and each time I systematically took apart each point you made. I showed you how your perception of these "flaws" wasn't accurate.
You can make as many "logical, well-reasoned" attempts as you wish, but if someone shows how you didn't really make the point you thought you did, then you didn't really accomplish anything. That's what happened here, but you refuse to see that. If I took your previous tactic, this might be the time I'd suggest you were being delusional. Just so you (hopefully) don't misinterpret, that last was just a bit of ironic humor given the true nature of the situation here, not an actual attempt to say you're delusional.
Your basic response was "because of things I understand, and you couldn't possibly understand, your points are wrong and mine are right.
No. That was never the case. I attempted multiple times to explain the inaccuracies in what people were saying and when they still did not understand, it was THEN that I gave up on trying to explain it.
You're trying to generalize the situation and make it seem like I didn't offer any real points when in fact I did.
I'm not going to tell you what those points are, exactly, but believe me - they exist.
Wrong. I made several points that people didn't understand and made several attempts to explain the points.
You're trying to make it seem like I didn't make any points, and if you honestly believe that's true, then you need to go re-read them.
and continue to make assumptions about human nature that are wildly off base,
No, they're not, and I've explained that MANY times. Again, you need to re-read what I've said or stop making these ridiculous statements claiming to know what I've said when you clearly don't.
Let's be honest here. People have given up because they know they can't win, but no one wants to say that. Even you refuse to debate the points at hand and want to bow out with an attack on me when you have clearly demonstrated you haven't even read the vast majority of this thread.
If an army were to fight a war the way you and several others debate, they would charge valiantly onto the field of battle and thrash madly into the opposing army until they encountered the least bit of resistance, then run away and hide in the hills only to shout they never wanted to fight in the first place because fighting is stupid and besides that the opposing army is just being ridiculous. No, they'd yell, they aren't afraid and could easily defeat that army if they wanted to, but they don't want to fight because that wouldn't be reasonable. They were never defeated, either, they just chose to run and hide and give up the land they were originally fighting for. But they didn't really lose, because the other army is just unreasonable in their position and they could defeat them if they wanted but they just don't want to fight.
Unless you want to charge back onto the field of battle and engage me in the real debate again, it's over. You gave up, you lost the land you were fighting for, and you can hide in the hills all day and claim otherwise and I won't care because I'm the one standing on the battlefield with my hand held high.