# Who would you start? Topic

Chris Cartee or Ernie Richter at the 5?  I think IQs still make it reasonable to keep Cartee in my starting lineup.  I do already have 2 scoring threats coming off the bench, including my 2nd leading scorer (who also leads the team in minutes as the first backup at the 1 and the 2).  But I probably also have some loyalty towards Cartee as a 4-year starter, and Richter is a LOT more athletic.
11/22/2012 6:20 PM
I'd say Richter, his ATH is too good not start. His talent makes up for the IQ difference IMO.
11/22/2012 6:38 PM
This is how I rank them using my weighting system ... basically a tossup:

 Name GS ATH SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P ST FG% FG3% FT% MIN PTS REB AST BLK STL TO PF R BH O D Overall Christopher Cartee 22 45 50 75 35 61 85 50 40 26 76 50.0% 42.9% 59.7% 20.6 9.9 4.8 0.7 0.7 0.5 1.4 1.6 64 36 68 49 53.64 Ernest Richter 0 71 35 70 61 48 61 14 31 28 67 55.2% 0.0% 59.3% 15.3 6.4 4.4 0.6 0.5 0.5 1.0 1.1 69 34 61 64 52.89

R is my rebounding, BH (the 2nd one on the right side) is overall Ball Handing, O is Offense, D is Defense.  They all take into account percentages of different attributes and IQs.  I would likely start Richter (even though his overall rating is slightly less) because of the huge difference in the Defensive calculation.

My D rating is calculated as (if anyone cares):  (DE*50%)+(ATH*20%)+(SPD*5%)+(BLK*10%)+(DEF_IQ*15%)

11/22/2012 9:47 PM (edited)
You say "defensive iq times fifteen percent". How do you numerically quantify defensive iq?
11/22/2012 9:47 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 11/22/2012 9:47:00 PM (view original):
You say "defensive iq times fifteen percent". How do you numerically quantify defensive iq?
I use grades converted by this lookup chart:

 Letter Grade Numerical Equivalent A+ 97 A 95 A- 92 B+ 87 B 85 B- 82 C+ 77 C 75 C- 72 D+ 67 D 65 D- 62 F 57

11/22/2012 9:48 PM
My offensive rating does 6 calcs (based on types) and picks the highest of the 6 for the overall O rating:

 Offensive Types ATH SPD LP PE BH IQ LP 0.30 0.05 0.45 0.05 0.05 0.10 Balanced 0.20 0.10 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.10 PE 0.12 0.10 0.05 0.43 0.20 0.10 SlasherPE 0.30 0.08 0.05 0.17 0.30 0.10 SlasherLP 0.30 0.06 0.18 0.06 0.30 0.10 SlasherATH 0.38 0.08 0.03 0.03 0.38 0.10

11/22/2012 9:55 PM
 Point Guard Shooting Guard Small Forward Power Forward Center Rank Player Year Pos Rating Rank Player Year Pos Rating Rank Player Year Pos Rating Rank Player Year Pos Rating Rank Player Year Pos Rating 1 Terry Thornton Sr. PG 72.95 1 Terry Thornton Sr. PG 73.31 1 Michael Baker Sr. C 64.56 1 Michael Baker Sr. C 64.99 1 Christopher Cartee Sr. PF 64.84 2 Dennis Mellor Jr. SG 65.66 2 Dennis Mellor Jr. SG 68.54 2 Terry Thornton Sr. PG 61.58 2 Christopher Cartee Sr. PF 60.79 2 Michael Baker Sr. C 64.55 3 Michael Baker Sr. C 64 3 Michael Baker Sr. C 64.6 3 Dennis Mellor Jr. SG 59.68 3 Ernest Richter So. PF 58.91 3 Ernest Richter So. PF 64.3 4 Brian Claudio So. PG 60.76 4 Brian Claudio So. PG 58.33 4 Eddie Demby Sr. SF 58.54 4 Eddie Demby Sr. SF 57.82 4 Robert Murakami So. C 60.7 5 Eddie Demby Sr. SF 58.84 5 Eddie Demby Sr. SF 58.21 5 Christopher Cartee Sr. PF 58.11 5 Andrew Chambers Sr. SF 56.77 5 Arthur Hicks Fr. C 58 6 Andrew Chambers Sr. SF 54.38 6 Andrew Chambers Sr. SF 54.01 6 Andrew Chambers Sr. SF 56.52 6 Terry Thornton Sr. PG 55.56 6 Andrew Chambers Sr. SF 57.86 7 Christopher Cartee Sr. PF 50.55 7 Christopher Cartee Sr. PF 53.24 7 Ernest Richter So. PF 55.09 7 Dennis Mellor Jr. SG 55.43 7 Eddie Demby Sr. SF 57.17 8 Bobby Fett Fr. PG 49.86 8 Bobby Fett Fr. PG 48.82 8 Brian Claudio So. PG 53.61 8 Robert Murakami So. C 55.04 8 Larry Fleck Fr. C 54.36 9 Ernest Richter So. PF 47.94 9 Ernest Richter So. PF 47.01 9 Robert Murakami So. C 50.69 9 Arthur Hicks Fr. C 52.54 9 Dennis Mellor Jr. SG 49.15 10 Robert Murakami So. C 43.18 10 Robert Murakami So. C 43.88 10 Arthur Hicks Fr. C 48.28 10 Brian Claudio So. PG 49.99 10 Terry Thornton Sr. PG 46.37 11 Larry Fleck Fr. C 41.58 11 Larry Fleck Fr. C 40.3 11 Larry Fleck Fr. C 46.29 11 Larry Fleck Fr. C 49.78 11 Brian Claudio So. PG 44.9 12 Arthur Hicks Fr. C 40.69 12 Arthur Hicks Fr. C 40.08 12 Bobby Fett Fr. PG 44.27 12 Bobby Fett Fr. PG 41.78 12 Bobby Fett Fr. PG 37.83
11/22/2012 10:05 PM
Here's another one: Shawn Wilcox or Thomas Belcher at the 2?  Either way he's going to be the weakest link on the team, at least in the starting lineup.  Normally I'd go with the defensive option in Wilcox, but I have 2 reservations in this case.  First, he's the only guy I really feel comfortable with backing up my starting point guard.  If I start him at the 2 odds are that #3 on the depth chart is going to get big minutes at the 1.  Second, Belcher is my only viable perimeter threat at this point.  My starting 3, this guy, still has high potential in PER, so if I add a few minutes to PER practice maybe he gets up into the 70s by the end of the season.  But not now.  So it seems to be in my best interest to maximize Belcher's minutes and probably overload his distro a little bit relative to his efficiency to try to artificially prop up my team's 3-point threat.
11/24/2012 1:25 PM
I'd start Wilcox and put Belcher next at the 1 and 2 (although I'd leave an open space in slot 2 at PG so Belcher plays SG more). Better defender starts, Belcher gets lots of PT off the bench (possibly against other bench players, making him more potent)...
11/24/2012 7:54 PM
Who would you start? Topic