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11/28/2012 6:45 PM

Schilling weighs in on Hall of Fame ballot

November, 28, 2012
Nov 28
4:13
PM ET
By ESPNBoston.com


ESPN baseball analyst -- and former Red Sox pitcher -- Curt Schilling is one of 24 players who became eligible for the Hall of Fame for the first time Wednesday on what he dubbed “the first steroid ballot.”
Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa -- all players whose numbers were tainted by performance-enhancing drug allegations -- headline the list of first-timers. Players need 75 percent of the vote from more than 600 longtime members of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America to get in.

For Schilling, the decision on those three should be easy.

"I wouldn't vote for them, ever,” he said in an interview on SportsCenter (embedded above). “It generally tends to go this way with people that get caught doing stuff. You generally never catch somebody on the first go-round. These guys I think to some degree or another in different cases cheated and in some cases cheated for a lengthy period of time. I think that had an impact on who they are and what they did. I would be someone who wouldn’t vote for anyone that cheated in that manner. ...

“At the end of the day, I just feel like what guys did with performance-enhancing drugs gave them such an immense advantage over the competition."


As for his own candidacy, Schilling wasn’t making any guesses. He’s considered a borderline candidate by many and said it’s too hard to predict a process Schill called “schizophrenic.”

"I honestly have no idea,” he said. “I haven’t won a game or struck out a hitter in five years. I did what I did. I had a chance and I interacted with a lot of guys over the years in the media that voted for the Hall of Fame and it's schizophrenic in many ways.

“Unfortunately there are people that take this process as a personal platform to write an article. I know a writer who did not vote for Nolan Ryan to protest Don Sutton not getting in the first time. I know of writers that have intentionally not voted for players they didn’t like.

“Knowing that, that has made it very easy for me to not give this a second thought in the sense that it's completely out of my hands and it's completely in the writers' hands. They're human. They have different opinions about different people and like me I'm sure they're going to look at some guys and say 'character matters for me when I vote for this guy and it doesn’t matter to me when I vote for this guy.’ That’s just the way it is." 


Schilling’s career numbers make him an interesting candidate for many reasons. He pitched for 20 years and won 20 games times, but never won a Cy Young (he finished second three times). A six-time All-Star, he finished with 216 career wins, 3,116 strikeouts and a 3.46 ERA.

In the postseason, he was even better. In 19 career postseason starts, he was an incredible 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA and helped three teams win World Series (the 2001 Diamondbacks and 2004 and 2007 Red Sox).

Schilling said the fact that the best players of his generation “have all for the most part have been involved in discussions of cheating” makes his performance look even better.

"That's why when I look at my numbers I know I did them against guys that were cheating,” he said. "So I'm proud of that." 

 
11/28/2012 9:16 PM
F*** him - arrogant bastard.  I never could stand the guy.

Personally, I think the only reason he's spouting off in this manner is because he knows that the majority of the BBWAA and the current HOF'ers feel that way - therefore, they'll vote for him in hopes that he'll keep that train of thought going in the future.

JMHO...

11/29/2012 5:41 AM
HE CHEATED THE TAX-PAYERS OF RHODE ISLAND!

KEEP BLOODY SOCK OUT OF HOF AND IN PRISON

RE-INSTATE PETER H. ROSE!
11/29/2012 12:02 PM
How so we know Curt Schilling wasn't using PED's? That being said, I would vote for him!
11/29/2012 2:03 PM
Barry Bonds should get in.  He was a great player, and then became a superhuman playing the game on PEDs.  He's not McGwire who was a good, then got all jacked up.  Bonds led the league in OPS 3 times before he ever hit 40+ HR in a season.  You wanna make Maris and Aaron the HR kings again, I'm fine with that.  But Barry Bonds deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
11/29/2012 2:07 PM
Bonds and Clemens should definitely get in. And so should Schilling.
11/29/2012 8:50 PM
Schilling is a close one.  If PEDs had never been an issue I'm not sure he'd get in, but his postseason stats might carry him.  PEDs are probably helping him since he was never associated with them.  Sure looked like a guy that could have been using, but it's never been said loudly.  You've heard a few whispers, but nothing overt.  Of course, Bagwell got an embarrassingly low number of votes just for being a power guy during the steroid era, so I guess it could go either way.
11/30/2012 8:37 AM
Boston was a bastion of steroid use during Schilling's time there.   Doesn't mean he did it but let's not pretend it wasn't all around him.

And, before the haters hate, yes, Jeter was surrounded by steroid use also.    He's not above suspicion either. 
11/30/2012 8:46 AM
11/30/2012 10:23 AM
He could use some steroids and some sun.
11/30/2012 10:34 AM
A diet to boot.
11/30/2012 12:19 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 11/29/2012 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Schilling is a close one.  If PEDs had never been an issue I'm not sure he'd get in, but his postseason stats might carry him.  PEDs are probably helping him since he was never associated with them.  Sure looked like a guy that could have been using, but it's never been said loudly.  You've heard a few whispers, but nothing overt.  Of course, Bagwell got an embarrassingly low number of votes just for being a power guy during the steroid era, so I guess it could go either way.
I think, regardless of PEDs, Schilling should be in. He's a notch below Maddux, Clemens, and Randy Johnson, but those guys are inner circle Hall of Famers. He certainly has a better case than Jack Morris.
11/30/2012 1:28 PM
Schilling is a tool.

That aside . . . good pitcher.  Not a HOFer.
11/30/2012 1:54 PM
I disagree, but no big deal. It's not like Blyleven or Raines, where leaving him out is a godd*mn travesty.
11/30/2012 2:09 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/30/2012 1:55:00 PM (view original):
I disagree, but no big deal. It's not like Blyleven or Raines, where leaving him out is a godd*mn travesty.
You're not going to lecture us on FIP, or other ADVANCED METRICS!!!???
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