Posted by examinerebb on 12/29/2012 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 12/29/2012 2:55:00 PM (view original):Then I assume you believe that knives kill people, automobiles kill people, blunt objects kill people, etc. and that all those things should be regulated in the same way that guns should.
Posted by examinerebb on 12/29/2012 2:06:00 PM (view original):I've always found the guns don't kill people, people do argument asinine myself.
tec, I've watched the discussion without comment and you've brought up some solid questions, but the "Do baseball cards kill people?" argument is assinine. No, they don't. Neither do guns. Or knives. Or cars. The people wielding them do the killing. A gun kills people in much the same way that a spoon makes people fat. If you want to argue that no one needs to buy 700 rounds of ammo in a month, that's an argument worth listening to. As is the argument that nobody needs an extended magazine or an assault rifle. Hell, if you want to argue that Supreme Court's interpretation of the 2nd Amendent (that "well-regulated militia" is discarded in favor of "the people") is wrong, that's worth discussing too. The argument that "guns kill people" is base fear-mongering and a fallacy. You could grab your computer monitor right now and kill someone, if you were so inclined.
Personally, I'd like to know where the outrage is against a psychiatric community that tells us these lunatics can be rehabilitated. That has helped "inform" the creation of laws that allow a convicted murderer to re-integrate into society, where he can place a 911 call to lure volunteer firefighters to their deaths. My guess is that it's just less comfortable to say "some people can't be fixed and need to be removed from society" than it is to say "guns kill people".
I'm not saying guns don't make it easier for someone who is predisposed to kill someone to perform the act. I'm saying that person is going to perform the act, regardless. You can't get rid of every available weapon, and getting rid of some of them won't solve the problem. It might mitigate it and make you feel better, but it won't solve it. The problem lies with the people who are predisposed to commit the crime.
Hah, guns aren't NEARLY as regulated as automobiles/driving is.
How many people did the knife wielder in China kill?
How many people did the gun wielder in Newtown kill?
They may be predisposed to kill, but a gun in their hands makes it much much much much more easy than any other item, except for maybe a bomb...and those are already illegal.