2x2 - No other league like it - Needs 1 Topic

The Season 7 draft is nearing for the 2x2 Progressive, and we have four teams that will be open for the upcoming season. 

This league can be a real challenge as it is not like the typical progressive.  Because of the 2x2 rules and a lottery system that promotes healthy rosters, the league tends to be more balanced.  The nature of the league and its 2x2 format are designed to avoid the extreme differences in team performance (i.e. fewer dynasties).  In other words, the same old strategies of boom or bust don't work here.

Check out the rosters below as well as the league rules.  I think you'll find that there is no other league like this one.  Come join us.


**2 Teams Left**
1/26/2013 3:36 PM (edited)
Complete League Rules
 
Player Pool
The league begins with the ‘50/’75 seasons and progresses forward to ‘51/’76, ‘52/’77, and so on. Each team will be allowed to use the current season or previous season of player on their roster. 

Players available to play in any given season are those players that had a WIS-eligible season in the current or previous season. This means that in the ‘52/’77 when Ted Williams would be on IR in other leagues, he can still use his eligible ’51 season to play for your team.
 
Injured Reserve
An IR list will be maintained for players that miss a season due to injuries or whatever. There is no limit on the number of players that can be on IR.
 
To be placed on IR, a player must be owned by the team and must have played in a previous season. In other words, a player cannot be drafted and placed directly on IR.
 
A player may, however, be placed on IR as long as the current or previous season would qualify as an IR season under the above criteria. This means that in ‘53/’78 when Ted Williams has just 117 PA’s and ’52 was an IR-eligible season, the team may put him on IR for the ‘53/’78 season.

Draft and Draft Positions
The initial draft will be a serpentine (1-24, 24-1, 1-24, etc.), 26-round draft where each team will draft 25 players and one exclusive stadium. Draft position will be determined based on a random sequencing of all owners (using ramdom.org).

Drafts after Season 1 are NOT serpentine. Subsequent seasons will have a draft using cut players and all other players in the database from the current or previous season that aren't keepers on someone's roster or IR list.

For Season 2 and beyond, the 1st round draft order will be randomly determined using a weighted team distribution based on the W-L records at the 120-game point. The weighted distribution will be determined based on the number of games behind the top team any given team is after 120 games. The formula will be as follows:
 
· Each team will get a number of chances equal to the difference between their win total and the win total of the top team(s), but not more than 40 chances.
o For example, say the top team has 80 wins. If your team has 55 wins, then your team gets 25 chances. If your team has 45 wins, your team gets 35 chances. If your team has 40 or fewer wins, your team gets 40 chances.
 
Once the number of chances per team has been calculated, 1st Round draft position will then be determined through a random sequencing (using random.org) of all the chances identified through the above formula. However, no team will be allowed to drop more than 6 spots below its position in an inverse ranking of W-L records. In other words, if a team had the worst record in the league at the 120-game mark, by rule it could not drop lower than the 7th pick in the 1st Round draft sequencing.  Additionally, no team may move up more than 6 spots.
 
All subsequent rounds will be based on W-L record with ties broken by giving the better position to the team that had the worse position in the 1st Round.

Note: While no system is foolproof, this system is intended to for the most part eliminate any advantage to purposely losing (a.k.a. Tanking). It also is intended to recognize the fact that the difference between a team that is 41-79 and a team that is 40-80 is in reality negligible, and the 40-80 team should not necessarily be rewarded for having the good fortune of having lost 1 more game out of the first 120 than the other team.
 
Draft Schedule
The draft will generally be timed to conclude at about the same time the previous season’s playoffs are finished. As much as is possible drafting will be conducted “off the clock”. If the draft is not moving fast enough and it appears that it will not be completed before or soon after the conclusion of the playoffs, a schedule of timed picks will be established and communicated to ensure the time between seasons is minimized.

Keeper Lists
Owners may cut up to 10 players at the end of each season. It is not mandatory that owners cut anyone. Keeper lists are to be posted under the appropriate thread in the league forum one week after the 120-game trade deadline is reached in the current season.
 
Once posted, keeper lists are considered final and can only be changed with the commissioner’s approval to correct an error. Keepers cannot be contingent on any trade proposal or draft pick.
 
Draft Picks
Each team will be awarded as many picks in the draft as are needed to complete their 25-man roster. In other words, if you keep 23 players, you get 2 draft picks. If you keep 16 players, you get 9 draft picks.
 
Note: See “Unbalanced Trades” below for more information on how draft picks are impacted by trades.
 
Trading of Draft Picks
Draft picks may be traded in-season or during the offseason (see definitions of in-season and off season below), including during the draft itself. Future draft picks may also be traded, but only for the next season.
 
Owners who traded away a draft pick in-season must cut at least as many players from their keeper list as the number of draft picks traded. In other words, if a team trades away two draft picks for the next season, that team must drop at least two players when it comes time for the affected draft.
 
In-Season and Offseason
“In-Season” begins with the end of the Offseason, and ends once the trade deadline is reached (120-game mark).
 
Offseason begins once the trade deadline is reached (120-game mark), and ends when the last scheduled draft pick is posted by the owner making that pick.
 
Note: Because there will be time between the last pick of the draft and the beginning of the season, there will be a period when no trades can be made (until the league is fully set up and the schedule generated).

In-Season Trades
In-Season trades made during the season will be made using the SIM trade function. During the season, if 6 or more owners reject a trade, then it is officially vetoed. 

Offseason Trades
Offseason trades can only be proposed after all teams involved in the trade have officially posted their keeper lists.
 
Offseason trades are to be sitemailed to the commissioner. Upon receipt, such trades will be reviewed by the commissioner to ensure that all draft implications are fully identified. Once all implications are fully understood, trades will be approved/disapproved immediately, and communicated back to the owners involved as well as the rest of the league owners. The commissioner's decisions are to be made with the intent of maintaining the best interests of the league in terms of competitive integrity. The commissioner’s decision is final.
 
Unbalanced Trades
Unbalanced trades will be compensated for to ensure rosters include but do not exceed 25 players. 

Critical Points related to unbalanced In-Season trades:
- An unbalanced in-season trade is any trade where the number of current roster players exchanged is uneven; for example, 2-for-1 trades or the trading of a player for a draft pick
- To balance such trades, AAA players may be included in the trade or may be brought up from the minors (WIS does this automatically in some cases)
- Although trades that result in AAA players on active rosters are allowed, those AAA players are not allowed to appear in any games – such players must be set to “Rest”, and should be removed from all player hierarchies (e.g. Player Rest, Defensive Replacements, Pinch Hitting)

Critical Points related to unbalanced Off-Season trades:
- An unbalanced off-season trade is any trade where the number of non-IR keeper list players and current draft picks exchanged is uneven; for example, 2-for-1 non-IR player trades, trades of a non-IR player for an IR player, 2-for-1 current draft pick trades, trades of a current draft pick for a future draft pick, etc.
- To balance such trades, after the trade is approved, owners giving up more players/picks will be awarded compensatory or supplemental draft picks at the end of the draft schedule and owners receiving more players/picks will have their last scheduled draft pick(s) removed to ensure all rosters will have 25 players by the end of the draft
- Compensatory/Supplemental rounds at the end of the draft will be conducted in the same drafting order as the regular rounds regardless of when the original trades occurred
 
Additional Trade Rules
Trades between teams owned by the same person will not be allowed. This includes 3-way trades involving two teams owned by the same person, and “chained” trades or “pass through” trades where separate trades are made close together involving some or all of the same players ultimately having the effect of moving players between two teams owned by the same person. The commissioner will nullify any such trades deemed to be in violation of the intent of the rule.

Stadiums
Any stadium in use from 1950 or later may be chosen. Stadiums will be exclusive (original team stadiums will be selected as a part of the inaugural draft). Teams may change stadiums no more than once every 10 seasons.
 
Additional Rules
AAA or minor league players will not be allowed to play in any games under any circumstances. AAA players will be available to facilitate In-Season trades of draft picks only. Teams using AAA players in games will be subject to loss of draft position in subsequent drafts as deemed appropriate by the commissioner.
 
The Designated Hitter will be in effect for both leagues (NL and AL).
 
There will be no Waiver Wire.
 
Full or partial player seasons may be used

SLL restricted to next scheduled series ONLY

Team name should be consistent from season to season and should be based on the location of your stadium. It doesn’t have to be the MLB city name, but something appropriate to represent the team’s geographic location.
 
Prizes/Awards
Every 5 seasons, WIS Admin will kick in $50 if the ownership within the league remains stable. “Stable” in this case, means that at least half of the owners who began the 5 season period are still in the league.
 
Provided the league qualifies to receive the $50 bonus, at the end of each 5 season period the teams (owners) with the best individual records in each of the qualifying 5 seasons will receive a $10 prize.
 
To receive a prize, the owner “must be present to win”. In other words, the owner will forfeit the prize if he/she leaves the league before the beginning of the next season following the prize period.

A League with Class
This league is intended to be fun and entertaining to all who participate. As commissioner, I will ask that all communications associated with the league as well as all team names used within the league be “G” rated. Let’s make this a classy league that maintains a focus on the game.


12/29/2012 2:44 PM (edited)
Current Roster - St. Louis Gashouse Gang    NEW OWNER: die2live

Draft Position - 18th in the 1st Rd; 21st in each round thereafter

Bob Buhl
1955
Milwaukee Braves
SP
$5,287,102
Jim Clancy
1980
Toronto Blue Jays
SP
$5,813,006
Carl Erskine
1954
Brooklyn Dodgers
SP
$6,458,334
Ned Garver
1954
Detroit Tigers
SP
$6,893,391
Jack Harshman
1955
Chicago White Sox
SP
$4,742,502
Bruce Hurst
1980
Boston Red Sox
SP
$264,450
Phil Niekro
1979
Atlanta Braves
SP
$8,023,687
Rick Wise
1979
Cleveland Indians
SP
$5,234,293
Danny Darwin
1980
Texas Rangers
RP
$2,947,154
Greg Minton
1980
San Francisco Giants
RP
$2,723,727
Bob Stanley
1980
Boston Red Sox
RP
$3,567,444
Brian Downing
1979
California Angels
C
$4,733,974
Ron Hassey
1980
Cleveland Indians
C
$4,258,239
Thurman Munson
1979
New York Yankees
C
$3,363,960
Gil Hodges
1954
Brooklyn Dodgers
1B
$7,006,537
Art Howe
1980
Houston Astros
1B
$2,041,475
Phil Garner
1979
Pittsburgh Pirates
2B
$4,487,403
Graig Nettles
1979
New York Yankees
3B
$4,030,112
Roy Smalley
1979
Minnesota Twins
SS
$6,045,273
Dave Kingman
1979
Chicago Cubs
OF
$4,701,934
Chet Lemon
1979
Chicago White Sox
OF
$5,942,835
Gary Matthews
1979
Atlanta Braves
OF
$5,131,910
Stan Musial
1954
St. Louis Cardinals
OF
$7,089,926
Terry Puhl
1980
Houston Astros
OF
$5,151,570
Dusty Rhodes
1954
New York Giants
OF
$2,400,573
2/2/2013 4:13 PM (edited)
Current Roster - San Francisco Longshoremen  -  NEW OWNER:  The Taint

Draft Position - 15th in the 1st Rd; 9th in each round thereafter

Glenn Abbott
1980
Seattle Mariners
SP
$4,169,358
Tommy Boggs
1980
Atlanta Braves
SP
$4,569,737
Art Fowler
1955
Cincinnati Reds
SP
$5,249,275
Vern Law
1955
Pittsburgh Pirates
SP
$4,692,670
Charlie Leibrandt
1980
Cincinnati Reds
SP
$3,027,928
Billy Loes
1955
Brooklyn Dodgers
SP
$2,993,675
Roger Craig
1955
Brooklyn Dodgers
RP
$2,076,554
Bill Henry
1955
Boston Red Sox
RP
$1,250,765
Sandy Koufax
1955
Brooklyn Dodgers
RP
$980,911
Dan Spillner
1979
Cleveland Indians
RP
$3,320,665
George Zuverink
1955
Baltimore Orioles
RP
$2,094,218
Sherm Lollar
1955
Chicago White Sox
C
$4,040,165
Ernie Whitt
1980
Toronto Blue Jays
C
$1,959,404
George Crowe
1955
Milwaukee Braves
1B
$2,617,653
Bob Hale
1955
Baltimore Orioles
1B
$1,284,039
Bill Skowron
1954
New York Yankees
1B
$2,211,418
Ted Lepcio
1954
Boston Red Sox
2B
$3,058,761
Bump Wills
1979
Texas Rangers
2B
$4,123,824
Mike Schmidt
1980
Philadelphia Phillies
3B
$6,988,972
Willy Miranda
1955
Baltimore Orioles
SS
$3,053,052
Ruppert Jones
1979
Seattle Mariners
OF
$6,540,428
Willie Mays
1954
New York Giants
OF
$10,175,293
Al Oliver
1980
Texas Rangers
OF
$4,918,105
Dave Winfield
1979
San Diego Padres
OF
$6,904,660
Al Woods
1980
Toronto Blue Jays
OF
$3,499,692
1/15/2013 6:23 PM (edited)
I will take the Longshoreman if still available.
12/29/2012 10:21 PM
Current Season - Seattle Yankees

Draft Position - 9th in the 1st Rd; 3rd in each round thereafter

Bob Feller
1954
Cleveland Indians
SP
$3,575,003
Randy Jones
1979
San Diego Padres
SP
$6,393,678
Bob Keegan
1954
Chicago White Sox
SP
$4,336,293
George Susce
1955
Boston Red Sox
SP
$3,794,403
Don Sutton
1980
Los Angeles Dodgers
SP
$6,306,750
Jerry Garvin
1980
Toronto Blue Jays
RP
$2,191,068
Don Johnson
1954
Chicago White Sox
RP
$3,430,298
Ray Narleski
1954
Cleveland Indians
RP
$2,497,078
David Palmer
1979
Montreal Expos
RP
$3,137,977
Ron Reed
1980
Philadelphia Phillies
RP
$2,103,513
Bruce Sutter
1979
Chicago Cubs
RP
$4,266,173
Toby Atwell
1954
Pittsburgh Pirates
C
$2,580,718
Jack Shepard
1954
Pittsburgh Pirates
C
$2,510,777
Mike Hargrove
1979
Cleveland Indians
1B
$3,766,067
John Wockenfuss
1980
Detroit Tigers
1B
$2,688,045
Gil McDougald
1955
New York Yankees
2B
$5,773,020
Carney Lansford
1979
California Angels
3B
$4,497,027
Hank Thompson
1954
New York Giants
3B
$4,054,986
Craig Reynolds
1979
Houston Astros
SS
$3,340,494
Jim Spencer
1979
New York Yankees
DH
$2,835,372
Lou Brock
1979
St. Louis Cardinals
OF
$2,570,451
Jeff Burroughs
1980
Atlanta Braves
OF
$1,947,476
Ralph Kiner
1954
Chicago Cubs
OF
$4,611,843
Jorge Orta
1980
Cleveland Indians
OF
$3,844,910
Reggie Smith
1980
Los Angeles Dodgers
OF
$3,249,606
1/15/2013 6:22 PM (edited)
Posted by The Taint on 12/29/2012 10:21:00 PM (view original):
I will take the Longshoreman if still available.
You've got it.
12/29/2012 10:32 PM
bump
1/10/2013 10:16 PM
Fun league - worth a look.
1/16/2013 5:26 PM
Current Roster - Detroit Tigers  -  NEW OWNER - tigerben

Draft Position - 4th in the 1st Rd; 1st in each round thereafter

Dennis Eckersley
1979
Boston Red Sox
SP
$5,926,895
Don Liddle
1954
New York Giants
SP
$3,791,393
Steve McCatty
1980
Oakland Athletics
SP
$4,557,133
Tom Seaver
1979
Cincinnati Reds
SP
$5,823,013
Ron Davis
1980
New York Yankees
RP
$3,344,369
Woodie Fryman
1980
Montreal Expos
RP
$2,889,898
Don Hood
1979
New York Yankees
RP
$2,226,325
Sal Maglie
1955
Cleveland Indians
RP
$671,487
Tug McGraw
1980
Philadelphia Phillies
RP
$3,587,105
Kevin Saucier
1980
Philadelphia Phillies
RP
$843,833
Milt May
1980
San Francisco Giants
C
$2,484,369
Dave Rader
1980
Boston Red Sox
C
$1,823,484
Jason Thompson
1980
California Angels
1B
$3,192,803
Earl Torgeson
1955
Detroit Tigers
1B
$3,695,096
Bill Almon
1979
San Diego Padres
2B
$897,004
Ken Oberkfell
1980
St. Louis Cardinals
2B
$3,900,901
Dave Stapleton
1980
Boston Red Sox
2B
$3,626,247
Ken Boyer
1955
St. Louis Cardinals
3B
$3,506,259
Solly Hemus
1955
St. Louis Cardinals
3B
$1,187,481
Bernie Carbo
1979
St. Louis Cardinals
OF
$393,902
George Foster
1979
Cincinnati Reds
OF
$4,328,372
Ken Griffey Sr.
1979
Cincinnati Reds
OF
$3,211,545
Charlie Maxwell
1955
Detroit Tigers
OF
$876,870
Bob Nieman
1955
Chicago White Sox
OF
$1,985,315
Champ Summers
1979
Detroit Tigers
OF
$2,676,553
1/26/2013 3:23 PM (edited)
I'll take the Detroit Tigers team.
1/26/2013 2:58 PM
Love Stan the Man.   I'll try St. Louis.
2/2/2013 12:54 AM
Welcome to both tigerben and die2live.  I will send you both sitemails with league details.
2/2/2013 4:12 PM
2x2 - No other league like it - Needs 1 Topic

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