1/11/2013 1:42 PM
What happened to the franchise history thread that is pinned above?

The title has been replaced by "." and the main, relevant, posts have been deleted.
1/11/2013 10:48 PM
And now it's gone altogether
1/12/2013 11:01 PM

That's odd. It was a good source of info for theme leagues.

1/13/2013 12:39 PM
And the 'Celebrating the Best' topic is collapsed.
This post has a rating of , which is below the default threshold.
1/13/2013 12:44 PM
The CTB post doesn't say anything about why it's collapsed; usually, there will be a 'below your threshold' statement.  It's just collapsed.
1/16/2013 12:58 PM
Any word on why this is gone? Did someone submit a ticket?
1/16/2013 4:51 PM
Posted by contrarian23 on 1/13/2013 12:43:00 PM (view original):
It appears that in the past 24 hours someone has gone through the forums and "negative rated" a bunch of my posts.  I have a strong suspicion as to who would engage in this kind of childish petulant behavior, but having no hard evidence I will refrain from posting any names.

Depending on your user settings, this may collapse my thread when you try to view it.

I have no idea what happened to the franchise thread though - awesome info. 
One of the first things I did when I saw this "rating" system was go into my user settings and set my minimum view rating to -5. (ie: this lets me see everything).
1/17/2013 11:37 PM
Posted by Bilfert on 1/17/2013 7:36:00 PM (view original):
I deleted it in a moment of frustration with WiS.

25,000+ views. pretty good run for that thread.
Wow...way to take out your frustration on the whole WIS community and take down something that was beneficial to everyone, especially for theme leagues. I hope whatever you were frustrated about has been resolved so you don't hose over everyone again.
1/18/2013 9:38 AM
Posted by frazzman80 on 1/17/2013 11:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Bilfert on 1/17/2013 7:36:00 PM (view original):
I deleted it in a moment of frustration with WiS.

25,000+ views. pretty good run for that thread.
Wow...way to take out your frustration on the whole WIS community and take down something that was beneficial to everyone, especially for theme leagues. I hope whatever you were frustrated about has been resolved so you don't hose over everyone again.
i dunno, it was his post, the he put the work into....it was great to have, but again, it was his work
1/18/2013 10:01 AM

Here is the History that I have. Not sure it is 100% accurate for Real Life Baseball but I do believe it is what the WIS database has.

16 Original Franchises
NL
Atlanta Braves - Boston Beaneaters:1901-1906,Boston Doves:1907-1910,Boston Braves:1911-1935,Boston Bees:1936-1940,Boston Braves:1941-1952,Milwaukee Braves:1953-1965,Atlanta Braves:1966-2012  
Chicago Cubs - Chicago Orphans:1901-1902,Chicago Cubs:1903-2012
Cincinnati Reds - Cincinnati Reds:1901-2012
Los Angeles Dodgers - Brooklyn Superbas: 1901-1910,Brooklyn Dodgers:1911-1912,Brooklyn Superbas:1913,Brooklyn Robins:1914-1930,Brooklyn Dodgers:1931-1957,Los Angeles Dodgers:1958-2012
Philadelphia Phillies - Philadelphia Phillies:1901-1943,Philadelphia Blue Jays:1944,Philadelphia Phillies:1945-2012
Pittsburgh Pirates - Pittsburgh Pirates:1901-2012
San Francisco Giants - New York Giants:1901-1957,San Francisco Giants:1958-2012
St. Louis Cardinals - St. Louis Cardinals:1901-2012
AL
Baltimore Orioles - Milwaukee Brewers:1901,St Louis Browns:1902-1953,Baltimore Orioles:1954-2012
Boston Red Sox - Boston Americans:1901-1907,Boston Red Sox:1908-2012
Chicago White Sox - Chicago White Sox:1901-2012
Cleveland Indians - Cleveland Blues:1901-1902,Cleveland Naps:1903-1915,Cleveland Indians;1916-2012,
Detroit Tigers - Detroit Tigers;1901-2012
Minnesota Twins - Washington Senators:1901-1960,Minnesota Twins:1961-2012
New York Yankees - Baltimore Orioles:1901-1902,New York Highlanders:1903-1912,New York Yankees:1913-2012,
Oakland Athletics - Philadelphia Athletics:1901-1954,Kansas City Athletics:1955-1967,Oakland Athletics:1968-2012

14 Expansion Teams
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Los Angeles Angels:1961-1964,California Angels:1965-1996,Anaheim Angels:1997-2012
Arizona Diamondbacks - Arizona Diamondbacks:1998-2012
Colorado Rockies - Colorado Rockies:1993-2012
Houston Astros - Houston Colt 45's:1962-1964,Houston Astros:1965-2012
Miami Marlins - Florida Marlins:1993-2011,Miami Marlins:2012
Kansas City Royals - Kansas City Royals:1969-2012
Milwaukee Brewers - Seattle Pilots:1969,Milwaukee Brewers:1970-2012
New York Mets - New York Mets:1962-2012
San Diego Padres - San Diego Padres:1969-2012
Seattle Mariners - Seattle Mariners:1977-2012
Tampa Bay Rays - Tampa Bay Devil Rays:1998-2007,Tampa Bay Rays:2008-2012
Texas Rangers - Washington Senators:1961-1971,Texas Rangers:1972-2012
Toronto Blue Jays - Toronto Blue Jays:1977-2012
Washington Nationals - Montreal Expos:1969-2004,Washington Nationals:2005-2012

Defunct Federal League Teams
Buffalo Feds:1914-1915
Indianapolis Hoosier Feds:1914
Newark Peppers:1915
Kansas City Packers:1914-1915
Pittsburgh Rebels:1914-1915
Baltimore Terrapins:1914-1915
St. Louis Terriers:1914-1915
Brooklyn Feds:1914-1915
Chicago Whales:1914-1915

1/18/2013 12:59 PM
bheid: some of those NL franchises do go back to pre-1901 seasons...
1/18/2013 1:16 PM
Posted by uncleal on 1/18/2013 12:59:00 PM (view original):
bheid: some of those NL franchises do go back to pre-1901 seasons...
Yep, I understand that. I don't have that info saved. Only posted what I have, which is from 1901 forward.
1/18/2013 3:42 PM
Posted by Bilfert on 1/18/2013 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Sorry frazz, like Lance Armstrong I am a flawed man.

I tend to agree with Bottomlee, I put the work in. All the info is readily available at bbref. In addition, a thread gets 25,000+ views, there is a small hubbub when it is removed, yet WiS still does nothing to incorporate it into the game.

That and post like yours are the type of things that are disenfranchising to those of us that try to make the community better.

I would say that Ozomatli hosed the community when he used their trust in him to take their money. I see it like JohnGPF, he was a fountain of information, did he hose us when he stopped imparting his wisdom.

My thread was just a shortcut to a website, I offered very little groundbreaking info.

I am sorry that you feel that I let you down, I was honestly thinking of only myself.
I understand your point about it being your intellectual property since you put in the work. I'm also sorry my comment made you upset.

The point of my comment was that I strive to make this forum community better on a daily basis as well. I enjoy this game and feel that the quality of the forums has slipped tremendously from the glory days when owners freely posted helpful info and guys like JohnGPF ruled the site. 

My post was deriding, but I only did it as a way to maybe make you stop and thing about the damage it does to the forums when a great resource such as your thread is removed. To be honest, I was a bit upset about it because it hurt what I love most about WIS: Progressive Leagues and Theme Leagues.

Your franchise history post provided info to new blood (and some vets and HOF too) knowledge to those who may not know it and possibly gave them the courage to take on a theme league or a progressive and graduate from the open league (read franchises don't matter) portion of this game. As an owner trying to fill both a theme league and a progressive right now, anything that gets an owner intrigued about leagues beyond the open league is beneficial.

The point is that any information that helps retain a newbie or gets an owner interested in theme or progressive leagues is a good thing. Removing this information is detrimental to the WIS community. The fact that it was a "moment of frustration" action is something that we will all have to live with.

*Note: The info in your thread should have been added to the knowledge base by admin. The fact that it wasn't (or that you or any other owner had to create it in the first place) is a bit frustrating too.
1/18/2013 4:41 PM
Posted by Bilfert on 1/18/2013 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Sorry frazz, like Lance Armstrong I am a flawed man.

I tend to agree with Bottomlee, I put the work in. All the info is readily available at bbref. In addition, a thread gets 25,000+ views, there is a small hubbub when it is removed, yet WiS still does nothing to incorporate it into the game.

That and post like yours are the type of things that are disenfranchising to those of us that try to make the community better.

I would say that Ozomatli hosed the community when he used their trust in him to take their money. I see it like JohnGPF, he was a fountain of information, did he hose us when he stopped imparting his wisdom.

My thread was just a shortcut to a website, I offered very little groundbreaking info.

I am sorry that you feel that I let you down, I was honestly thinking of only myself.
Kind of a stupid thing to do given that you know you can't reverse it.  This happen around the same time that you abandoned your own league and badly missed the min with both of your teams?
of 2

Terms of Use Customer Support Privacy Statement

Popular on WhatIfSports site: Baseball Simulation | College Basketball Game | College Football Game | Online Baseball Game | Hockey Simulation | NFL Picks | College Football Picks | Sports Games

© 1999-2014 WhatIfSports.com, Inc. All rights reserved. WhatIfSports is a trademark of WhatIfSports.com, Inc. SimLeague, SimMatchup and iSimNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts, Inc. Used under license. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.