Posted by harriswb3 on 2/4/2013 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bhouska on 2/4/2013 5:35:00 PM (view original):I'm not trying to be funny or PITA with this question, but I would like to know.
The #1 thing I have got to see, or I'm out the door, is a true cause and effect relationship between attributes and results.
I don't wanna see a 50/50/50 RB outgain a 70/70/70 RB in a game. Or a team of 50/50 OL pushing around a team of 70/70 DL.
Is there any room in this comment for an "upset"? We all know they happen in real life, what would be required in the game for a team with the 50/50 OL to have the RB break a few and the team win the game?
I do totally agree on needing more cause/effect...I would just like to clarify how we understand the cause/effect.
Hope that makes sense. If not, I'll try again. LOL
I think there is room in Bhouska's comment for an upset. It would come in the form of coaching and how you set your team up to play. Generally upsets happen when a team is poorly prepared. But those are upsets. All other things being equal, the more talented players usually win in real life (and even at times will overcome poor coaching).
So here are 2 examples.
1) Coach A (ranked 5) and Coach B (ranked 105) both run trips and the 4-3. All the settings are the same. Coach A has more talented players. Coach A should win.
2) Coach A (ranked 5) and Coach B (ranked 105) run different sets and the settings are different. Coach A has more talented players but runs between the tackles using the iformation every game. Coach B happens to run a 5-2 or a 4-4 defense and plays the defense close to the line which keeps the run damage to a minimum despite facing "better players". On offense, Coach B uses the shotgun as his only offensive formation and Coach A has the defense set to 4-4 with his defense close to the line. Coach B is able to take advantage of the thin secondary despite facing better players on defense than the offensive players he is coaching and gets a few deep plays during the game. Coach B pulls off the upset. When analyzing the game, both coaches are able to see why the less talented team won. It is still cause-effect, and the upset as a feature is intact.