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9/4/2013 5:08 PM (edited)
Welcome to the largest team blacklist in the entire universe!

We are winding up our 49th season and it's time to pick teams for the 50th go-around. I'll just post the rules we've used for the first 49 seasons and we'll go on from there. Everyone who was in Season XLIX is guaranteed a spot this time if they want to stay. Anyone who wants to get on the wait-list can just leave their name and we'll take them as spots open up. First come, first served (although owners with 5 or more previous seasons in wannabe are bumped to the front of the waitlist). It's always a fun league with a lot of league wide banter.

* $85 million cap
* All teams must have lost 100 games
• DH this time
* NO WW
* NO AAA
* No Trades
2013 teams will be available this time, based on current rosters.

Pick any team from any year. (For this season we've blacklisted the teams used in seasons 1 through 47. I'll post a list of those teams here in the forum.) Get the roster from www.baseball-reference.com and use anyone who played for your team that year. You can use any season of their career as long as they made at least 1 appearance for your team during the year you picked. Simple enough, right? I think everyone has this figured out by now, but if you don't, just ask.

Playing out of position is OK at your own peril.

NO AAA. If you're playing with the '75 Reds, then use the players on that team, not some imaginary players. Make sure you draft enough innings pitched and enough at-bats per position.

You can pick any $200K player from any year in your franchise history. It doesn't matter if you have a backup available from your year or not. If you want a $200K player, take one. Actually, you can even take a $250K player if you want. Anyone who comes up during the $200K + or - $50K search is OK with me. If there isn't a $200K guy available, you can use the cheapest you can find. If you pick the Rockies, Diamondbacks, Devil Rays, or Marlins, you can use all 4 of those teams for your $200K pool. If you have any questions about this, just ask.
(With the salary changes, it may be tougher to find $200K players for some teams. If it becomes a problem, we'll work something out.)

NO CLONES.

If you pick an old-time team that only had 7 pitchers, fill the other slots with $200K's from your franchise history. You probably won't need their innings anyway and you can use them as mop-ups.

Only 1 team per owner. I want to give everyone a chance if they want to play.

Use the stadium your team played in. If it's not available, then use another one in the same city or a reasonable alternative.
Name your team anything you want.

Bust some chops in the forum. If you sweep me, feel free to tell me how much my team sucks and how great your team is. And laugh it off when someone does the same to you.

Only one person can have a specific team and season. The first one to grab the '61 Yankees gets them. The next Yankee fan has to settle for the '27 team or whatever their other favorite is. I don't care how many Yankee teams are in the league as long as each one is a different season.

Head2Head is fine with me as long as it's the next game on the schedule. I don't want anyone jumping ahead. There will be NO Head2Head after game #120. (Since H2H is now free to everyone, I'm making a slight change here. Instead of just the next game, you can play the next full series H2H if you want. Just don't jump ahead of the schedule, and still NO H2H after game #120.)

In the first 49 leagues, we've used time lines for the divisions, but we're flexible. If you want to be in a division with someone else, we'll work it out.

Whatever I forgot to include I'll throw in later. Let me know if you see a problem. I know these rules are different from some of the other twist leagues, but they can work.

* Do not use the same team without at least a 5 year span between them. If someone else has the '27 Yankees, then don't use the '23-'32 Yankees. This rule is in place to have more variety in the teams we choose and the rosters. Exceptions can be made by the commissioner if he feels the rosters are different enough.
9/13/2013 12:29 AM (edited)
Blacklisted Teams:
These are the blacklisted teams. mfumar actually put some effort into this and organized them alphabetically and in chronological order. I know we're going to run out of teams at the rate we're going, but it's fun looking for new teams to twist. We talked about doing away with the blacklist because of the recent changes, but I think most of us want to keep it. I like seeing different teams each time around.

A's:(41) '02, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '95, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006

A's [old]:(1) 1889

Angels:(25) '61, '62, '66, '67, '71, '77, '79, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '96, '97, '99, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2012

Astros:(32) '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '72, '73, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '93, '95, '97, '98, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006

Blue Jays:(19) '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2008

Braves:(46) 1898, 1899, 1900, '17, '19, '35, '42, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '64, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '75, '82, '88, '89, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Brewers:(12) '69, '78, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '91, '92, '93, 2008

Cards:(75) 1887, 1889, 1899, '00, '21, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '55, '56, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012

Colonels:(1) 1899

Cubs:(59) '04, '05, '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '16, '19, '20, '26, '29, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '39, '44, '45, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, 74, '77, '78, '80, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '91, '92, '93, '95, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Diamondbacks:(8) '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008

Dodgers:(77) 1899, 1900, '01, '16, '26, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013

Giants:(74) 1888, 1893, '04, '05, '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '27, '28, '29, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '39, '41, '42, '51, '52, '54, '55, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '80, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '93, '98, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Indians:(54) '02, '03, '04, '07, '08, '09, '10, '14, '19, '20, '21, '22, '31, '37, '39, '41, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '64, '65, '66, '67, '74, '75, '82, '86, '87, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Mariners:(23) '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010

Marlins:(8) '96, '97, '98, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012

Mets:(28) '67, '69, '70, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '82, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '99, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009

Nationals/Expos:(14) '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '84, '85, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, 2002, 2005

Orioles/Browns:(49) '17, '22, '25, '43, '44, '53, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '88, '90, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007

Orioles (Old Time):(4) 1894, 1895, 1897, 1898

Padres:(14) '74, '78, '79, '85, '87, '90, '96, '97, 98, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008

Phillies:(60) 1891, 1892, 1893, 1895, 1896, 1898, 1899, '00, '01, '12, '13, '15, '16, '17, '21, '30, '36, '41, '45, '48, '49, '54, '56, '59, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '89, '90, '92, '93, '94, '95, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Pirates:(51) '00, '01, '02, '03, '04, '06, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '15, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '29, '33, '34, '35, '39, '47, '60, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '74, '75, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '83, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, 2001

Rangers:(20) '71, '74, '77, '78, '79, '80, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '98, '99, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008

Rays: (2) '99, 2000

Red Sox:(63) '03, '07, '08, '09, '12, '14, '15, '16, '19, '36, '39, '40, '41, '42, '46, '48, '52, '65, '66, '67, '68, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Reds [Boston AA]:(2) 1890, 1891

Reds:(52) '02, '13, '19, '20, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '32,  '33, '37, '39, '40, '41, '47, '52, '56, '57, '58, '59, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '67, '68, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, '99, 2007

Rockies:(4) '95, '97, '98, 2009

Royals:(17) '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '82, '83, '85, '86, '88, '89, '90, '91, '94, 2004

Spiders:(3) 1891, 1892, 1894

Tigers:(40) '12, '15, '18, '21, '24, '25, '26, '30, '34, '35, '36, '37, '39, '40, '41, '46, '51, '60, '61, '63, '66, '67, '68, '69, '71, '72, '73, '77, '82, '84, '85, '87, '88, '91, '94, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009

Tip-Tops:(1) '15

Twins/Senators:(24)  '09, '20, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '30, '32, '33, '45, '54, '63, '65, '66, '67, '69, '70, '87, '88, '91, '97, 2005, 2006

Whales:(1) '15

White Sox:(47) '06, '12, '13, '15, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '33, '34, '36, '37, '40, '51, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '73, '74, '77, '86, '91, '92, '93, '95, '97, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

Wolverines:(1) 1887

Yankees:(96) '09, '17, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '37, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '45, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

If anyone sees any mistakes here, please let me know.

1148 teams used ((47 seasons x 24 teams) + (1 season x 20 teams)) - season 25 used the first 24 world series winners
9/13/2013 12:30 AM (edited)
Owner - Team

emperorp - 1965 Mets
ssaffle - 1989 Tigers
trd3 - 1912 Yankees
horus_6 - 1993 Padres
cstrohmier - 1952 Pirates
odalisgagne - 1955 Senators
theshockers - 2006 Royals
sgsmith - 1985 Pirates
dewelch - 
antoncresten - 1985 Giants

terry00 - 1991 Indians
darthdurron - 1961 Phillies
soxfanj1995 - 1976 Expos
icefan - 1965 A's
stroh23 - 1982 Reds
akira_hokuto
newarkwilder - 
tabasko - 1917 Pirates
forte4him - 
dn3524 - 2001 Rays

dos_chairs - 1906 Americans

8/18/2013 2:25 AM
Wait List:

Old-timers returning in future:

Leave your name if you want to be included. We usually have a couple of openings and we fill them on a first come, first served basis. Newbies are always welcome to try their hand. We've had a few guys win their first championship in this league.

* returning wannabe with 5+ seasons get moved to the front of the waitlist
8/25/2013 3:23 PM (edited)
Season - champ - team
1 - 1927 A's - odalisgagne
2 - 1909 A's (2)- gorbyruss
3 - 1900 Braves - gorbyruss [2]
4 - 1907 Cubs - buckyblues
5 - 2000 Astros - keiko
6 - 1892 Phillies - cpmitchno1
7 - 1895 Orioles - ssaffle
8 - 1942 Dodgers - gorbyruss [3]
9 - 1982 Brewers - jgreene
10 - 1976 Royals - mfumar
11 - 1982 Red Sox - cpmitchno1 [2]
12 - 1998 Indians - cpmitchno1 [3]
13 - 1946 Yankees - ronthegenius
14 - 1901 Pirates - dalailama12
15 - 1968 Cardinals - dn3524
16 - 1967 Astros (2) - gorbyruss [4]
17 - 2000 Devil Rays - calhoop
18 - 1916 White Sox - bgalle54
19 - 1999 Cardinals (2)- dn3524 [2]
20 - 1927 Cardinals (3)- bgalle54 [2]
21 - 1930 Tigers - odalisgagne [2]
22 - 1989 Cardinals (4) - dn3524 [3]
23 - 1983 A's (3) - combalt
24 - 1993 Mariners - wetwillytwo
25 - 2000 Astros - keiko [2] (winner of WS league)
26 - 1971 Pirates (2) - sgsmith
27 - 1973 A's (4) - ssaffle [2]
28 - 1930 Yankees (2) - MMTDad
29 - 2000 Red Sox (2) - odalisgagne [3]
30 - 2007 Red Sox (3) - brucel
31 - 1968 Cubs (2) - tgrun
32 - 1948 Yankees (3) - mfumar [2]
33 - 2002 Dodgers (2) - wetwillytwo [2]
34 - 1949 Yankees (4) - emperorp
35 - 1968 Giants - darthdurron
36 - 1991 Cubs (3) - mac195
37 - 1997 Dodgers (3) - stroh23
38 - 1965 Cardinals (5) - mac195 [2]
39 - 1952 Dodgers (4) - emperorp [2]
40 - 1993 Brewers (2) - cstrohmier
41 - 1970 Astros (3) - darthdurron [2]
42 - 1944 Cardinals (6) - sgsmith [2]
43 - 1989 Phillies (2) - stroh23 [2]
44 - 1990 Red Sox (4) - bottomlee
45 - 1981 Orioles (2) - horus_6
46 - 2012 Yankees (5) - odalisgagne [4]
47 - 2012 Dodgers (5) - sgsmith [3]
48 - 1889 A's (1) - akira_hokutu [1]
49 - 1995 Cubs (4) - stroh23 [3]
8/18/2013 2:36 AM (edited)
some odd minutia about the blacklist
 
longest stretch of teams taken
93 - Yankees 1920-2012
42 - Red Sox 1971-2012
30 - Orioles 1955-1984
23 - Dodgers 1947-1969
20 - Mariners 1987-2006
15 - Giants 1959-1973
15 - Cubs 1960-1974
14 - Indians 1946-1959
14 - Phillies 1973-1986
14 - Dodgers 1996-2009
13 - Cardinals 1959-1971
13 - Cardinals 1997-2009
13 - Astros 1979-1991
12 - Cardinals 1923-1934    

longest spread between teams
36 years - A's 1933-1969
20 years - Cardinals 1901-1920
17 years - Browns 1926-1942  

1148 of 2496~ Teams have been used (approx 45.1%)  

104 of 108 World Series winners have been used
Season XLIX - 1903 Americans  

320 of 380 Playoff teams have been used
Season XLIX - 1903 Americans, 2012 Braves  

96 of 97 One hundred Win teams have been used
Season XLIX -   

24 of 142 One hundred Loss teams have been used
Season XLIX - 1974 Padres  

Highest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1967 - 90% (18/20)
1966 - 80% (16/20)
1990 - 73% (19/26)
1989 - 73% (19/26)
1991 - 73% (19/26)
1968 - 70% (14/20)
1965 - 70% (14/20)
1959 - 69% (11/16)    

Lowest Percentage of teams used of a single season (post 1901)
2013 - 3% - (1 of 30)
1903 - 13% - (2 of 16)
1905 - 13% - (2 of 16)
1938 - 13% - (2 of 16)
2011 - 17% - (5 of 30)  

Season that haven't been used
every season since 1887 has been used once  

Highest Pct of Franchise Seasons Used
84.1% - New York Yankees (95/113)
62.2% - Seattle Mariners (23/37)
61.5% - Houston Astros (32/52)
60.6% - Los Angeles Dodgers (77/127)
59.1% - St. Louis Cardinals (75/127)
58.3% - San Francisco Giants (74/127)
55.8% - Boston Red Sox (63/113)
53.8% - New York Mets (28/52)
51.4% - Toronto Blue Jays (19/37)
50.0% - Arizona Diamondbacks (8/16)      

only clubs to have a team twisted in every decade since 1900 (including 2010s)
NY/SF Giants, Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees  

1907 Cubs, 1949 Yankees, 1971 Pirates, 1973 A's and 2007 Red Sox - only teams to win real WS and then a Wannabe WS

In case you are wondering the final team that won 100 games that haven't been used: 1892 Braves
Winning World Series unused teams: 1918 Red Sox 1945 Tigers 2002 Angels 2011 Cardinals
8/18/2013 2:37 AM
i chose the 1965 Mets

ssaffle chose the 1989 Tigers
8/18/2013 2:39 AM
I like the fact that the Roman numeral for 50 is the L and that this will be a 100 Loss league.
8/18/2013 6:00 PM (edited)
I will return. 85 Pirates
8/18/2013 6:06 PM
DH is supposed to be used this season. Should we make the cap $85 with DH for this 100 loss league?
8/18/2013 6:14 PM
I think we should stay with the DH and 85 mil for the cap.
8/18/2013 6:15 PM
BACK TBD
8/18/2013 10:57 PM
I'll be back. TBD
8/19/2013 12:24 AM
I'll be in with the 1993 Padres
8/19/2013 12:26 AM
I am going to switch to the 1912 Highlanders (Yanks).
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