Posted by tropicana on 9/3/2013 7:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bglick on 9/3/2013 5:45:00 PM (view original):1) the knowledge base answer says don't do anything until he rejects it. Three want anything unclear about it. 2) for the umpteenth time, by offering a second offer YOU WITHDREW THE FIRST. Acknowledge that and you're fine.
Posted by tropicana on 9/3/2013 5:33:00 PM (view original):And as I've said already, I didn't violate the spirit of the rules. It seems in order to get a comp pick one must offer the player his initial demand, then when the player says he isn't sure whether he is supposed to come back, the owner is supposed to somehow realize that increasing his offer will both 1) not make the player more likely to sign and b) will negate the chance to get a comp pick WITHOUT this being stated ANYWHERE in the help guide or FAQ. Explain to me how I should have realized this.
It's also the VERY first thing that comes up in the knowledge base under amateur drafts and "signing draft picks"
The point of the rule is so that you divert funds elsewhere. Increasing your offer should not stop you from getting a comp pick. Saying that I've negated my ability to get a comp pick is backwards logic.
Also, suggesting I should have asked the board because I wasn't "sure" isn't really applicable either. This is like saying I should I have asked the board if increasing my offer by $1mm will help me sign a FA because technically I'm not sure if this will help. Again, I didn't realize the negotiations were any different than everything else until after getting the same response twice. It seems that you guys prefer a game that logic holes to not be fixed rather than admit that me losing a comp pick in this situation makes no sense. I'd admit that if I withdrew my offer instead making a counter offer that is higher than the original one that I shouldn't be entitled to a comp pick. But that isn't the case here.
In regards to 1), actually that's not what the knowledge base says.
It says: "In order to receive the compensation pick, you must offer the player his initial demands, he must refuse to sign, and you must never withdraw your offer to the draft pick at any time."
Thus based on that wording, if you offer the player his initial demands, he rejects it and asks for me, you can't offer him a higher amount without increasing your offer which technically withdraws your first offer, thus you shouldn't get the comp pick right? Are you not allowed to increase your offer after he rejects the initial offer? Or is basically you can only make one offer to the draft pick, if he rejects it and asks for me, either you gamble that you can meet his higher demand or you never make another offer again?
9/3/2013 9:02 PM (edited)