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9/22/2013 4:54 PM (edited)
badja - Combo - He did sell the Crystal Ship to Jesse, but he also sprang a leak too.  Combo didn't make it long, and I am afraid the same is true of this squad.  This team isn't going to be competitive with the top teams as far as D goes.  Love will take away from the good things the other players are trying to do offensively.  At this point I think the 11-12 Love season is almost quasi cancerous like some of the Grant Hill good seasons are.  Anderson plays are clean game even though he blew game one of the 95 finals and then sucked so bad for the rest of the series that I actually thought he was John Starks from the 94 finals.  Oh right now it looks like you have 16 points of usage in the starting lineup...that is some wasted moolah.


You put a lot of time in here!  Thanks.  

I would also consider myself like Declan....coasting on my reputation as the guy to beat, but vulnerable to an attack from the competition:)

and you just might be Jack's Gang:  one of the last crews standing when all is said and done.

9/22/2013 4:28 PM
smokey:  fouls actually lessen a defensive rating.  So those high foul guys that have high defense have already had that defensive rating lowered because of that stat.  I know this because when the last real update that came, seble had a discussion with the playerbase about it.

Often, though, those high foul players got a lot of those fouls trying to steal or block.  Thus, their DR still remains high.

9/23/2013 4:49 AM (edited)
Ash, high fouls is a relative term, I consider 1 pf/10mins acceptable from a +def75 player. A player like Alvin Robertson has 3.6 pf/g and a 42stl% @ 35 min's/g. IMO A-rob's stls outweigh the pf's and his def91 crushes perimeter off's. I typically pay about 1pf/g vs my opponent, for +2-4 slts and to run a press defense. This team has decent boards w/johnson 386 & lanier 339 creb, so the idea behind the BC's high slt% is to disrupt my opponents assist more than make up for a lack of boards. This team is very specific wrt certain aspects, 1) across the board +75def so that I can run a press defense and not foul excessively, 2) a strong perimeter def (80/91) with high slts (31/42) and strong ast (429/171), 3) average to good d-boards (276/253) in the FC and 4) FGA>7500. IMO the first 5 rounds have gone quite well.
9/23/2013 5:07 AM (edited)
btw - sort SG's for the #1 orb% & #1 slt%...A-rob. His def is ranked #6 @ SG. Alvin Robertson got taken 3rd for good reasons.
9/23/2013 11:56 AM


Name   Usage% eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk% Def
Deron Williams 23.4 54.4 1.3 8 34.2 1.4 0.5 70
Nick Anderson 19.1 57.3 3.8 10 13.8 2.1 0.5 61
Chris Andersen 10.9 56.6 9.7 21.3 2.5 1.1 4.9 94
Kevin Love 23 51.3 12.7 32.3 9 0.8 0.6 30
Bob McAdoo 25.1 55.4 8.7 24.1 5.7 1 3.8 73
        36.2 95.7 65.2 6.4 10.3  

This is an ok team.  Not great in any area thus far, but not terrible either.    IMO, defense over 65 is overrated, esp on the road, whereas eFG actually holds up pretty well.  Biggest thing is I'd love are more assists, but over 60% is just icing.

900 3's thus far at 40% is a bright spot and will keep the def honest.   Still 6000 minutes to fill and no money problems there.


9/23/2013 12:42 PM
nice work - my only critique would be you look a little light on the offensive boards but the impact of that (if any) will depend on the other teams in your division
9/23/2013 2:50 PM
just wondering why do people never use this season?
 
Def
80
Bobby Phills 95-96 Cavaliers SG usg
21.1
2pt
47.4
3pt
43.7
efg
52.4
oreb
3.0
dreb
10.0
ast
15.5
stl
2.0
blk
0.7
2530min
90 3s
$5,848,790
80 defense at 3 positions above 97%
no great stats but helps in every area
9/23/2013 3:12 PM
Usage is a bit high, but I'll admit when I just looked at it for the "eval", I thought it said "60" def, not 80. Make a big difference from "not hurting" to helping.
9/23/2013 3:33 PM
Took your advice Scud on Manu..

Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
Mark Jackson 95-96 Pacers PG 15.8 48.4 42.6 52.4 3.1 10.4 31.7 1.8 0.1
Manu Ginobili 06-07 Spurs SG 27.5 50.2 39.4 53.9 3.5 14.4 17 2.6 0.8
Clarence Weatherspoon 00-01 Cavaliers SF 15.3 50.5 0 50.1 8.8 22.4 5.1 1.4 2.3
Robert Parish 88-89 Celtics C 20.9 56.7 0 57 13.1 24.6 7 1.2 2.2
Dwight Howard 10-11 Magic C 27.4 59.4 0 59.3 12.1 28.8 4.9 1.7 3.8


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    Charles Barkley 87-88 76ers PF 26.7 62.6 28.5 60.4 13.5 20.0 9.9 1.4 1.8
    Tyson Chandler 06-07 Hornets C 12.6 62.3 0.0 62.4 13.8 26.1 3.5 0.7 3.1
    Brent Barry 01-02 SuperSonics SG 16.2 59.0 42.3 61.1 2.1 13.7 17.8 2.2 0.7
    Zelmo Beaty 70-71 Stars C 20.3 55.7 50.5 55.5 11.0 23.5 5.4 1.1 2.8
    Jerry West 70-71 Lakers PG 25.5 52.6 35.1 52.3 2.6 7.2 24.3 1.9 0.3
9/23/2013 4:26 PM
not pictured....defense

should score a ton as usual though...chucks gonna get his

9/23/2013 4:26 PM
nice leib, ya save a few bucks, gain a bit on def, reduce usage by a couple points, and maintain all the good things manu does while just losing 200 mins. i like the mark jackson pick, especially that season. definately a toght team to match-up against. if ya got any whusses in the frontcourt on your squad, this team is gonna feast. gl2u
9/23/2013 4:44 PM (edited)
dh555 - Mix Master

this team has a little bit of "anything", and a lot of everything, a good mix! concerned a bit with t.o.'s, but is offset with dynamic efg%, which is off the charts. it's tough building around barkley, something i could not do well because of his deceptive usage. it's not as much as you'd think it would be, yet he scores and takes shots as if he was a 30% usage guy.

this translates into having to draft some high usage players to surround him with (west, zelmo), yet not too much to take away from barkley (barry, chandler). like i said, a very good mix here, dh, one that supports your 1st round pick. well done. defense is not terrible, not great, but teams won't get too many second chances to score because of your strong dreb%'s.

still cannot decide if this is an uptempo or half-court squad because of t.o.'s, yet could be a dynamic scoring group in an uptempo style. guess you would know better than i would in this department.

barry is always a sneaky player on a team. he is often forgotten about, and just when you have corraled barkley and west, barry is lighting it up from the arc to get his 15 points at times, and the other team comes out on the short end... and if it's not barry, then chandler will get his. zelmo is a very consistent scorer. uva used him once in an odl, and was scoffed at. he won the championship.

west was the right guard because barry does what west does not. good pairing there.

you're in the playoff mix. gl2u

9/23/2013 6:07 PM
Rubber Soul

    Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
    Tim Duncan 02-03 Spurs PF 28.1 52.0 27.3 51.5 9.5 25.4 13.5 0.8 4.4
    Bill Russell 64-65 Celtics C 14.0 44.7 0.0 43.8 12.2 31.6 12.8 1.3 3.8
    Marques Johnson 78-79 Bucks SF 25.9 55.9 34.3 56.2 7.8 14.0 8.6 1.6 1.7
    Walt Frazier 69-70 Knicks PG 20.8 55.1 33.6 54.1 4.2 10.2 21.5 1.8 0.5
    Wesley Person 97-98 Cavaliers SG 16.5 48.7 43.0 56.0 2.4 10.5 8.3 1.9 1.0

    Name   Pos GP Min Pts FGM FGA 3PM 3PA FTM FTA OReb Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF
    Tim Duncan   PF 81 3183 1884 714 1392 6 22 450 634 259 1043 316 248 55 237 231
    Bill Russell   C 80 3553 1131 440 1005 0 2 251 437 565 1925 421 236 127 273 210
    Marques Johnson   SF 77 2779 2007 820 1491 35 103 332 437 212 586 234 170 116 89 186
    Walt Frazier   PG 77 3040 1663 600 1158 54 163 409 547 134 465 629 274 141 28 203
    Wesley Person   SG 82 3198 1204 440 957 192 447 132 170 65 363 188 110 129 49 108

i like the addition of Person. was considering 3 other sg's with similiar numbers. one had more dimes, one had more boards, one had a more famous name. all had 80 def. settled on Person because of his mins and efg%.

leaves me with 1915 asts, 4500 drebs and 1250 orebs and no one under 70 def. efg% is good, and low t.o.'s and fouls. hmmm... something's wrong. wonder what it is. just leaves me with 5.2 mil for bench. maybe that's the issue. will see.
9/23/2013 6:38 PM
Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk% Def
Oscar Robertson 62-63 Royals PG 23.6 55.3 34.6 54.3 5.9 14.2 22.7 1.8 1.1 72
Charlie Ward 97-98 Knicks PG 15 51.3 37.7 53.4 1.5 11.8 27.9 3 1 86
Horace Grant 93-94 Bulls PF 18.7 52.6 0 52.4 13.2 20.3 11.3 1.3 2 80
Larry Sanders 12-13 Bucks PF 17 50.6 0 50.6 11.3 24.2 5.4 1.2 5.9 92
Shaquille O'Neal 99-00 Lakers C 31.2 57.6 0 57.4 11.4 23.3 11.9 0.5 4.4 80
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