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10/10/2013 11:19 AM (edited)
Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Angels won our league last season, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 31st, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.  Division alignment will be determined by the commissioner with feedback from other owners.  Real life division is the first determining factor, followed by geography and preserving natural rivalries.  In every phase of the draft, please sitemail the next three owners to let them know that you have picked.  This helps keep the draft moving.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2013) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.
  
3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA


No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2012
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  It took a long time, but the scumbag won has now won multiple championships.  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development.

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)

New Entry: Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him in three straight drafts)
10/13/2013 9:29 PM (edited)
Team draft order.  Thanks to schwarze for once again compiling this data.

Franchises in RED have already been selected.

Here is the cumulative standings (with the best and worst seasons removed)

Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 5 314 496 0.3877
2 D'backs 9 622 836 0.4266
3 Tigers 13 930 1176 0.4416
4 Pirates 13 989 1117 0.4696
5 Rockies 10 775 845 0.4784
6 Rangers 16 1247 1346 0.4809
7 Twins 20 1567 1674 0.4835
8 Blue Jays 19 1493 1586 0.4849
9 Angels 14 1108 1160 0.4885
10 White Sox 6 478 494 0.4918
11 Orioles 17 1361 1394 0.4940
12 Padres 19 1525 1553 0.4955
13 Brewers 20 1607 1636 0.4955
14 Mets 21 1700 1703 0.4996
15 Expos 23 1865 1864 0.5001
16 Mariners 23 1864 1863 0.5001
17 Marlins 15 1223 1209 0.5029
18 Phillies 23 1880 1849 0.5042
19 Braves 23 1882 1844 0.5051
20 Red Sox 23 1888 1839 0.5066
21 Indians 23 1889 1838 0.5068
22 Cubs 15 1233 1197 0.5074
23 Giants 22 1823 1742 0.5114
24 Cardinals 23 1933 1794 0.5186
25 Royals 20 1684 1557 0.5196
26 Reds 17 1437 1318 0.5216
27 Dodgers 22 1898 1667 0.5324
28 Yankees 20 1726 1514 0.5327
29 A's 23 2012 1715 0.5398
30 Astros 23 2055 1672 0.5514

10/19/2013 6:47 PM (edited)
Team Draft Order (timed draft starts Friday 10/11)

1. tridentric 44-118 .272                          Los Angeles Dodgers+
2. shaybee 67-95 .414                            St. Louis Cardinals+
3. schwarze 74-88 .457                           Houston Astros+ 
4. marlowe 74-88 .457                            Oakland Athletics+
5. spoonfed 77-85 .475                           San Diego Padres+
6. specsman 77-85 .475                         San Francisco Giants+
7. deathdealer 77-85 .475                      Detroit Tigers+
8. sinfonian11 78-84 .481                       Los Angeles Angels+
9. Disco Dogs 79-83 .488                       Pittsburgh Pirates+
10. Robin4 80-82 .494                            Baltimore Orioles+
11. twfan 80-82 .494                                Florida Marlins+
12. famous_dad 81-82 .497^                 Kansas City Royals+
13. ff09 83-79 .512                                   Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals+
14. moneybonn 86-76 .531                    Philadelphia Phillies+
15. mussopini23 89-73 .549                 Cincinnati Reds+
16. bob_shabazz 90-72 .556                 New York Mets+
17. sgsmith 83-79 .512*                         Boston Red Sox+
18. alleyviper 87-75 .537*                       Arizona Diamondbacks+
19. dvorr80 90-72 .556^*                         New York Yankees+
20. llcoach 90-72 .556*                           Cleveland Indians
21. tjefferson 94-68 .580*                       Toronto Blue Jays+
22. rbow923 94-68 .580*                        Colorado Rockies+
23. mllama54 82-81 .503&                    Chicago White Sox+
24. koyunlu 89-73 .549%                        Chicago Cubs+

+ Third round keeper sent

^ new owner
* playoff team
& WS runner-up
% WS champion

Division alignment:

NL East: Phillies, Mets, Marlins, Expos/Nats 
NL Central: Cubs, Cardinals, Pirates, Reds 
NL West: Rockies, Dodgers, Giants, Padres 
AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles 
AL Central: Indians, White Sox, Royals, Tigers 
AL West: Diamondbacks, Athletics, Angels, Astros

owner list for  sitemailing:  sinfonian11; schwarze; ff09; sgsmith; marlowe; shaybee; rbow923; Robin4; mllama54; spoonfed; tjefferson; alleyviper; deathdealer; llcoach; Disco Dogs; tridentric; mussopini23; moneybonn; twfan; koyunlu; specsman; bob_shabazz; famous_dad; dvorr80
10/22/2013 9:53 PM (edited)
Player Draft - First Round (timed schedule starts Tuesday 10/15, times EDT)               Off the Board

1. alleyviper - Arizona Diamondbacks:          Willie McCovey - SFG
2. deathdealer - Detroit Tigers:                       Roberto Alomar - BAL
3. Disco Dogs - Pittsburgh Pirates:               J.R. Richard - HOU
4. rbow923 - Colorado Rockies:                     Catfish Hunter - NYY
5. tjefferson - Toronto Blue Jays:                     Rico Petrocelli - BOS
6. sinfonian11 - Anaheim Angels:                   Nomar Garciaparra - BOS                            Boston Red Sox
7. mllama54 - Chicago White Sox:                  Joe Torre - STL
8. Robin4 - Baltimore Orioles:                         Ken Caminiti - SDP
9. spoonfed - San Diego Padres:                    Mike Kingery - COL
10. bob_shabazz - New York Mets:                  Ryan Howard - PHI
11. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nats  Rickey Henderson - NYY                                New York Yankees
12. twfan - Florida Marlins                                 Jake Peavy - SDP                                            San Diego Padres
13. moneybonn - Philadelphia Phillies:         Kevin Mitchell - SFG                                        San Francisco Giants
14. sgsmith - Boston Red Sox:                         Chase Utley - PHI                                            Philadelphia Phillies
15. llcoach - Cleveland Indians:                        Kevin Brown - LAD
16. koyunlu - Chicago Cubs:                             Alan Trammell - DET
17. specsman - San Francisco Giants:          Matt Kemp - LAD                                              Los Angeles Dodgers
18. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals:                   HWMNBN - CIN
19. famous_dad - Kansas City Royals:           Cal Ripken, Jr. - BAL                                     Baltimore Orioles
20. mussopini23 - Cincinnati Reds:                Larry Dierker - HOU                                       Houston Astros
21. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:              George Foster - CIN                                       Cincinnati Reds
22. dvorr80 - New York Yankees:                      Chris Carpenter - STL                                   St. Louis Cardinals
23. marlowe - Oakland Athletics:                       Darrell Porter - KCR
24. schwarze - Houston Astros:                         Jose Reyes - NYM

Player Draft - Second Round (timed schedule starts Friday 10/18)

1. alleyviper - Arizona Diamondbacks:           Don Sutton - HOU
2. deathdealer - Detroit Tigers:                        Dennis Eckersley - OAK
3. Disco Dogs - Pittsburgh Pirates:                Matt Carpenter - STL
4. rbow923 - Colorado Rockies:                     Mike Piazza - LAD
5. tjefferson - Toronto Blue Jays:                     Hideo Nomo - LAD                                   Los Angeles Dodgers
6. sinfonian11 - Anaheim Angels:                   Alex Rodriguez - NYY
7. mllama54 - Chicago White Sox:                  Ubaldo Jimenez - COL
8. Robin4 - Baltimore Orioles:                         Bobby Murcer - NYY                                New York Yankees
9. spoonfed - San Diego Padres:                    Darin Erstad - LAA
10. bob_shabazz - New York Mets:                 Carl Yastrzemski - BOS
11. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nats  Jay Bell - PIT
12. twfan - Florida Marlins                                 Jose DeLeon - STL                                 St. Louis Cardinals
13. moneybonn - Philadelphia Phillies:         Carlos Guillen - DET
14. sgsmith - Boston Red Sox:                        Zach Greinke - KCR
15. llcoach - Cleveland Indians:                       David Wright - NYM
16. koyunlu - Chicago Cubs:                             Don Wilson - HOU                                   Houston Astros
17. specsman - San Francisco Giants:          Edgardo Alfonso - NYM                          New York Mets
18. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals:                   Jeff Kent - SFG
19. famous_dad - Kansas City Royals:           Larry Walker - KCR
20. mussopini23 - Cincinnati Reds:                Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS                           Boston Red Sox
21. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:              Ken Singleton - BAL
22. dvorr80 - New York Yankees:                      Jimmy Key - TOR
23. marlowe - Oakland Athletics:                      Andrew McCutchen - PIT                      Pittsburgh Pirates
24. schwarze - Houston Astros:                        Victor Martinez - CLE

Player Draft - Third Round (timed schedule starts Monday 10/21)

1. alleyviper - Arizona Diamondbacks:           Willie Hernandez - DET
2. deathdealer - Detroit Tigers:                        Manny Ramirez - BOS
3. Disco Dogs - Pittsburgh Pirates:                Don Mattingly - NYY
4. rbow923 - Colorado Rockies:                      Bill Singer - LAD
5. tjefferson - Toronto Blue Jays:                     Fritz Peterson - NYY                              New York Yankees
6. sinfonian11 - Anaheim Angels:                   Darren Daulton - PHI
7. mllama54 - Chicago White Sox:                  Tim Hudson - OAK
8. Robin4 - Baltimore Orioles:                         Andy Pettite - HOU
9. spoonfed - San Diego Padres:                    Brian Roberts - BAL
10. bob_shabazz - New York Mets:                  AFTBOAT - STL
11. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nats   Mark McGwire - OAK                          Oakland Athletics
12. twfan - Florida Marlins                                 Willie Wilson - KCR
13. moneybonn - Philadelphia Phillies:          Dick Allen - CHW
14. sgsmith - Boston Red Sox:                         Jim Edmonds - STL                             St. Louis Cardinals
15. llcoach - Cleveland Indians:                        Koji Uehara - BOS                                Boston Red Sox
16. koyunlu - Chicago Cubs:                             Tim Salmon - LAA
17. specsman - San Francisco Giants:           BJ Ryan - TOR
18. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals:                   David Cone - KCR                                  Kansas City Royals
19. famous_dad - Kansas City Royals:           Gene Tenace - SDP
20. mussopini23 - Cincinnati Reds:                Garrett Atkins - COL
21. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:              Jimmy Rollins - PHI                              Philadelphia Phillies
22. dvorr80 - New York Yankees:                      Vladimir Guerrero - MON/WSH
23. marlowe - Oakland Athletics:                       Billy Wagner - HOU                              Houston Astros
24. schwarze - Houston Astros:                         Doug DeCinces - LAA                          Los Angeles Angels

10/22/2013 9:54 PM (edited)
List of keepers/draft picks

alleyviper - Arizona Diamondbacks:  Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Daniel Hudson, Luis Gonzalez, Paul Goldschmidt, Willie McCovey - SFG, Aaron Hill, Don Sutton - HOU, Miguel Montero, Willie Hernandez - DET  

deathdealer - Detroit Tigers:  Lance Parrish, Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, Roberto Alomar - BAL, Tony Phillips, Dennis Eckersley - OAK, Doug Fister, Manny Ramirez - BOS

Disco Dogs - Pittsburgh Pirates:  Roberto Clemente, Barry Bonds, Willie Stargell, Freddie Sanchez, Doug Drabek, J.R. Richard - HOU, Rick Reuschel, Matt Carpenter - STL, Zane Smith, Don Mattingly - NYY

rbow923 - Colorado Rockies:  Larry Walker, Troy Tulowitski, Todd Helton, Ellis Burks, Eric Young, Catfish Hunter - NYY, Matt Holliday, Mike Piazza - LAD, Vinny Castilla, Bill Singer - LAD

tjefferson - Toronto Blue Jays:  Jose Bautista, Carlos Delgado, John Olerud, Roberto Alomar, Roger Clemens, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, Mark Eichhorn, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Roy Halladay, Fritz Peterson - NYY

sinfonian11 - Anaheim Angels:  Mike Trout, Mark Texeira, Jered Weaver, Frank Tanana, Bobby Grich, Nomar Garciaparra - BOS, Andy Messersmith, Alex Rodriguez - NYY, Mike Witt, Darren Daulton - PHI 

mllama54 - Chicago White Sox:  Albert Belle, Frank Thomas, Magglio Ordonez, Wilbur Wood, LaMarr Hoyt, Joe Torre - STL, Keith Foulke, Ubaldo Jimenez - COL, Bobby Jenks, Tim Hudson - OAK

Robin4 - Baltimore Orioles:  Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, Mike Mussina, Chris Hoiles, Brady Anderson, Ken Caminiti - SDP, Miguel Tejada, Bobby Murcer - NYY, Bobby Grich, Andy Pettite - HOU

spoonfed - San Diego Padres:  Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Kevin Brown, Heath Bell, Trevor Hoffman, Mike Kingery - COL, Nick Vincent, Darin Erstad - LAA, Joe Thatcher, Brian Roberts - BAL

bob_shabazz - New York Mets:  Mike Piazza, Matt Harvey, Tom Seaver, Dwight Gooden, Pedro Martinez, Ryan Howard - PHI, Carlos Beltran, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Howard Johnson, AFTBOAT - STL

ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:  Pedro Martinez, Pascual Perez, Tim Raines, Gary Carter, Jose Vidro, Rickey Henderson - NYY, Dennis Martinez, Jay Bell - PIT,  Tim Burke, Mark McGwire - OAK

twfan - Florida Marlins:  Miguel Cabrera, Gary Sheffield, Hanley Ramirez, Kevin Brown, Jose Fernandez, Jake Peavy - SDP, Luis Castillo, Jose DeLeon - STL, Armando Benitez, Willie Wilson - KCR

moneybonn - Philadelphia Phillies:  Steve Carlton, Cole Hamels, Curt Schilling, Mike Schmidt, Lenny Dykstra, Kevin Mitchell - SFG, Tug McGraw, Carlos Guillen - DET, Billy Wagner, Dick Allen - CHW

sgsmith - Boston Red Sox:  Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Derek Lowe, Wade Boggs, Fred Lynn, Chase Utley - PHI, John Valentin, Zach Greinke - KCR, Carlton Fisk, Jim Edmonds - STL

llcoach - Cleveland Indians:  Jim Thome, Roberto Alomar, Kenny Lofton, Albert Belle, Gaylord Perry, Kevin Brown - LAD, Rafael Betancourt, David Wright - NYM,  Manny Ramirez, Koji Uehara - BOS

koyunlu - Chicago Cubs:  Rick Wilkins, Ryne Sandberg, Sammy Sosa, Derrek Lee, Greg Maddux, Alan Trammell - DET, Billy Williams, Don Wilson - HOU, Bruce Sutter, Tim Salmon - LAA

specsman - San Francisco Giants:  Tim Lincecum, Jason Schmidt, Juan Marichal, Barry Bonds, Rich Aurillia, Matt Kemp - LAD, Buster Posey, Edgardo Alfonso - NYM, Will Clark, BJ Ryan - TOR

shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals:  John Tudor, Bob Gibson, Albert Pujols, Mark McGwire, Willie McGee, HWMNBN - CIN, Ted Simmons, Jeff Kent - SFG, Adam Wainwright, David Cone - KCR

famous_dad - Kansas City Royals:  Kevin Appier, Bret Saberhagen, Larry Gura, George Brett, Carlos Beltran, Cal Ripken, Jr., Roger Nelson, Larry Walker - MON/WSH, John Mayberry, Gene Tenace - SDP

mussopini23 - Cincinnati Reds:  Joey Votto, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Barry Larkin, Tom Seaver, Larry Dierker - HOU, Eric Davis, Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS, Aroldis Chapman, Garrett Atkins - COL

tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:  Clayton Kershaw, Orel Hershiser, Don Sutton, Fernando Valenzuela, Adrian Beltre, George Foster - CIN, Eric Gagne, Ken Singleton - BAL, Steve Sax, Jimmy Rollins - PHI

dvorr80 - New York Yankees:  Robinson Cano, Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Ron Guidry, Mariano Rivera, Chris Carpenter - STL, Dave Righetti, Jimmy Key - TOR,
Paul O'Neill,
Vladimir Guerrero - MON/WSH

marlowe - Oakland Athletics:  Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Mike Norris, Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Darrell Porter - KCR, Miguel Tejada, Andrew McCutchen - PIT, Andrew Bailey, Billy Wagner - HOU

schwarze - Houston Astros:  Mike Scott, Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Lance Berkman, Jose Reyes - NYM, Nolan Ryan, Victor Martinez - CLE, Randy Johnson, Doug DeCinces - LAA

10/10/2013 5:50 AM
Ah yes, home in my usual position, drafting first!
We'll take:

LA Dodgers
10/10/2013 11:18 AM
I always forget to put this in the league rules (which I'll correct right now), but please remember to sitemail the next three owners after you make your selection.
10/10/2013 11:56 AM
good call Sin
10/10/2013 12:41 PM
I'll try the Cards.  Might even have to protect Rolen...
10/10/2013 1:34 PM
Times posted for tomorrow if necessary.
10/10/2013 1:57 PM
Houston Astros
10/10/2013 5:17 PM
Oakland
10/10/2013 8:14 PM
Posted by shaybee on 10/10/2013 12:41:00 PM (view original):
I'll try the Cards.  Might even have to protect Rolen...
If I get the team I want I won't even be looking to draft Rolen!
10/10/2013 8:42 PM
Posted by alleyviper on 10/10/2013 8:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shaybee on 10/10/2013 12:41:00 PM (view original):
I'll try the Cards.  Might even have to protect Rolen...
If I get the team I want I won't even be looking to draft Rolen!
I'll believe it when I see it! ;-)
10/10/2013 9:53 PM
I will take San Diego Padres
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