$80M Six Drafts (NL E) - 2009 Draft - Completed Topic

Dan Haren, 7.7M. Will write up more after last pick.
10/19/2013 1:36 PM
Scott Hairston - $1,902,299                     Final Team Salary - $79,979,689
10/19/2013 1:44 PM
Figured I better get some more innings, albeit, not great innings...

Ryan Sadowski, $402,863  (Final salary = $79,988,399)
10/19/2013 4:20 PM
Luis Hernandez, $200,000, final salary is $79,978,133
10/19/2013 8:14 PM
Posted by brianjw on 10/19/2013 1:36:00 PM (view original):
Dan Haren, 7.7M. Will write up more after last pick.
I hope you can explain to Dan why he was picked after CC and Halladay. I think he is going to take this personally ;-)
10/19/2013 8:15 PM
Batting Stats
bardin Pos Bats PA162 AB162 HR SB AVG# OBP# SLG# OPS# Speed Defense Salary
Ruiz, Carlos C R 379 322 9 3 0.256 0.354 0.412 0.765 44 A/A+/C- 2,376,324
Hanigan, Ryan C R 293 251 3 0 0.265 0.360 0.318 0.678 41 A+/A/A+ 2,450,097
Dunn, Adam 1B L 668 546 38 0 0.269 0.397 0.515 0.912 60 D/C 4,773,223
Izturis, Maicer 2B S 437 387 8 13 0.297 0.356 0.411 0.767 77 A/C- 3,240,139
Lopez, Felipe 2B S 297 259 3 0 0.322 0.406 0.434 0.840 64 C/B 2,438,103
Ramirez, Aramis 3B R 344 307 15 2 0.319 0.388 0.502 0.890 59 C/C- 2,719,119
DeRosa, Mark 3B R 314 278 13 1 0.267 0.338 0.433 0.772 60 B+/D 1,693,840
Bartlett, Jason SS R 567 500 14 30 0.317 0.385 0.466 0.851 86 C/D+ 4,503,721
Hernandez, Diory SS R 93 85 1 0 0.142 0.197 0.203 0.400 66 A+/D+ 232,652
Hernandez, Luis SS R 81 73 0 1 0.204 0.253 0.203 0.457 63 A/D- 200,000
Choo, Shin-Soo OF L 685 583 20 21 0.298 0.390 0.465 0.855 76 C/B- 5,371,188
Holliday, Matt OF R 670 581 24 14 0.315 0.393 0.501 0.894 76 B-/D+ 5,299,353
Drew, J.D. OF L 539 452 24 2 0.276 0.388 0.498 0.887 71 A-/D 3,973,997
Total / Avg     5367 4624 172 87 0.289 0.376 0.453 0.828 67   39,271,756
                           
                           
                           
brianjw Pos Bats PA162 AB162 HR SB AVG# OBP# SLG# OPS# Speed Defense Salary
Martin, Russell C R 588 505 7 11 0.251 0.350 0.317 0.667 53 B+/A+/B- 3,589,487
Zaun, Gregg C S 99 94 4 0 0.285 0.320 0.466 0.785 49 C+/B+/D- 551,026
Johnson, Nick 1B L 574 457 8 2 0.293 0.425 0.391 0.816 53 C-/C+ 3,780,034
Garko, Ryan 1B R 273 239 11 0 0.282 0.358 0.441 0.799 53 B/D 1,566,695
Zobrist, Ben 2B S 599 501 27 17 0.295 0.401 0.519 0.920 78 A-/D 4,669,972
Blanco, Andres 2B S 138 123 1 0 0.254 0.302 0.329 0.631 66 A+/D- 548,285
Figgins, Chone 3B S 729 615 5 42 0.295 0.391 0.371 0.762 91 A-/B+ 6,727,915
Aybar, Erick SS S 556 504 5 14 0.309 0.349 0.400 0.749 77 A/A 5,374,801
Victorino, Shane OF S 694 620 10 25 0.294 0.357 0.431 0.788 87 A/B 6,043,846
Fowler, Dexter OF S 518 433 4 27 0.267 0.362 0.393 0.755 93 B/C- 3,382,134
Bradley, Milton OF S 475 395 12 2 0.259 0.377 0.384 0.760 69 B/D+ 2,814,923
Pierre, Juan OF L 425 380 0 30 0.310 0.364 0.379 0.743 95 A/D- 2,636,932
Total / Avg     5668 4866 94 170 0.285 0.372 0.401 0.773 75   41,686,050
                           
                           
                           
mensu1954 Pos Bats PA162 AB162 HR SB AVG# OBP# SLG# OPS# Speed Defense Salary
Rodriguez, Ivan C R 448 425 10 1 0.247 0.276 0.361 0.638 45 B/A+/A- 2,794,751
Paulino, Ronny C R 266 239 8 1 0.274 0.339 0.409 0.748 41 A/A+/B- 1,952,085
Butler, Billy 1B R 672 608 21 1 0.299 0.358 0.468 0.826 52 B-/C- 4,504,026
Carp, Mike 1B L 65 54 1 0 0.312 0.411 0.439 0.851 53 C/C 379,119
Roberts, Brian 2B S 717 632 16 30 0.281 0.352 0.427 0.780 80 B/D+ 4,873,162
Young, Michael 3B R 593 541 22 8 0.319 0.371 0.494 0.864 62 A-/D- 4,401,341
Vizquel, Omar SS S 195 177 1 4 0.263 0.312 0.323 0.636 67 A+/C- 1,113,232
Valdez, Wilson SS R 95 86 0 0 0.258 0.325 0.325 0.650 68 A+/D- 402,175
Counsell, Craig SS L 459 404 4 3 0.286 0.356 0.395 0.751 66 A+/D 3,409,370
Prado, Martin OF R 503 450 11 1 0.309 0.357 0.451 0.807 59 B-/C- 3,674,844
Hairston, Scott OF R 216 197 10 8 0.301 0.357 0.519 0.876 82 A-/C 1,902,299
Markakis, Nick OF L 711 642 18 6 0.290 0.344 0.430 0.774 70 C+/D+ 4,329,799
Abreu, Bobby OF L 667 563 15 30 0.291 0.386 0.412 0.798 83 C-/C 4,462,530
Brantley, Michael OF L 121 112 0 4 0.310 0.355 0.327 0.682 84 B-/C- 748,060
Total / Avg     5728 5130 137 97 0.290 0.351 0.427 0.778 66   38,946,793
                           
                           
                           
schwarze Pos Bats PA162 AB162 HR SB AVG# OBP# SLG# OPS# Speed Defense Salary
Molina, Yadier C R 544 481 6 9 0.295 0.365 0.369 0.735 46 A/A+/A+ 4,553,598
Miller, Corky C R 111 95 1 0 0.188 0.281 0.245 0.526 41 A+/A/D 352,274
Votto, Joey 1B L 544 469 25 4 0.324 0.412 0.553 0.966 54 C/C 4,828,011
Castillo, Luis 2B S 580 486 1 20 0.304 0.386 0.333 0.719 77 B/C+ 4,109,401
Baker, Jeff 2B R 225 204 4 0 0.307 0.361 0.435 0.795 60 A/C+ 1,786,432
Sandoval, Pablo 3B S 633 572 25 5 0.332 0.386 0.542 0.928 60 B/D 5,492,985
Scutaro, Marco SS R 680 574 12 14 0.280 0.375 0.387 0.762 70 A/C 5,099,536
Swisher, Nick OF S 607 498 29 0 0.247 0.367 0.474 0.841 66 C+/D+ 3,922,824
Coghlan, Chris OF L 565 504 9 8 0.323 0.389 0.446 0.835 74 C/D- 3,871,625
Davis, Rajai OF R 432 390 3 41 0.303 0.357 0.400 0.757 94 B/B- 3,361,167
Morgan, Nyjer OF L 212 191 1 24 0.353 0.395 0.421 0.816 94 B/A- 2,255,822
Fuld, Sam OF L 115 97 1 2 0.301 0.408 0.399 0.806 74 B/D- 714,240
Total / Avg     5248 4561 117 127 0.301 0.378 0.434 0.812 67   40,347,915
10/19/2013 10:09 PM
Pitching Stats
bardin Throws IP162 ERC# OAV# WHIP# HR9# BB9# K9# Salary
Vazquez, Javier R 219 2.32 0.225 1.02 0.65 1.7 6.7 7,285,545
Jurrjens, Jair R 215 2.92 0.238 1.21 0.49 3.0 5.0 5,831,498
Wolf, Randy L 214 2.78 0.229 1.09 0.81 2.3 5.2 6,016,603
Carpenter, Chris R 193 2.06 0.228 1.00 0.25 1.7 5.2 6,972,134
Washburn, Jarrod L 133 2.35 0.221 1.05 0.55 2.2 4.4 3,997,826
Hanson, Tommy R 128 2.90 0.227 1.18 0.56 3.1 5.9 3,431,729
Masset, Nick R 76 2.15 0.205 1.02 0.56 2.7 6.0 2,413,741
Frasor, Jason R 58 2.04 0.206 1.00 0.45 2.4 6.3 1,924,126
Vargas, Claudio R 42 1.88 0.179 0.95 0.51 3.1 5.0 1,373,600
Kensing, Logan R 35 8.62 0.359 2.00 1.76 4.2 4.0 209,137
Mortensen, Clayton R 28 6.75 0.317 1.75 1.29 3.8 3.2 200,000
Betancourt, Rafael R 25 1.36 0.191 0.86 0.27 1.7 6.9 1,050,438
Total / Avg   1366 2.71 0.230 1.11 0.59 2.4 5.4 40,706,377
Exlcuding mopups   1303 2.46 0.224 1.07 0.55 2.3 5.5 40,297,240
                   
brianjw Throws IP162 ERC# OAV# WHIP# HR9# BB9# K9# Salary
Halladay, Roy R 239 2.83 0.254 1.11 0.61 1.3 5.9 6,438,312
Sabathia, C.C. L 230 2.67 0.230 1.13 0.52 2.6 5.8 6,705,939
Haren, Danny R 229 2.40 0.226 1.00 0.86 1.4 6.2 7,722,470
Lilly, Ted L 178 2.64 0.232 1.05 0.91 1.7 5.7 5,020,233
Aceves, Alfredo R 84 2.45 0.218 0.99 0.81 1.7 5.6 2,464,152
Guerrier, Matt R 75 2.25 0.205 0.95 0.90 1.8 4.5 2,303,449
Baez, Danys R 72 2.83 0.219 1.11 0.75 2.7 4.2 1,811,985
Breslow, Craig L 55 2.03 0.188 0.98 0.60 2.9 5.5 1,815,785
Penny, Brad R 42 2.14 0.206 0.95 0.88 1.9 3.7 1,166,447
Choate, Randy L 36 2.34 0.211 1.05 0.74 2.7 5.4 961,583
Ni, Fu-Te L 31 1.95 0.185 0.97 0.64 3.1 4.8 942,968
Gray, Jeff R 26 3.79 0.276 1.27 0.77 1.3 5.1 410,871
Herges, Matt R 25 2.94 0.238 1.17 0.80 2.1 5.1 506,752
Total / Avg   1323 2.58 0.229 1.06 0.73 1.9 5.6 38,270,946
                   
                   
mensu1954 Throws IP162 ERC# OAV# WHIP# HR9# BB9# K9# Salary
Hernandez, Felix R 239 2.51 0.225 1.12 0.41 2.6 6.1 7,477,806
Verlander, Justin R 238 2.83 0.240 1.16 0.55 2.3 7.0 6,775,663
Greinke, Zack R 229 2.21 0.227 1.05 0.31 2.0 6.7 7,969,016
Lester, Jon L 203 3.10 0.240 1.21 0.66 2.8 6.9 5,345,003
Peavy, Jake R 102 2.53 0.218 1.11 0.56 2.9 6.7 3,038,361
Rowland-Smith, Ryan L 96 2.96 0.237 1.16 0.62 2.5 4.1 2,399,019
O'Day, Darren R 56 1.79 0.185 0.93 0.35 2.7 6.3 2,095,853
Hoffman, Trevor R 54 1.46 0.185 0.90 0.26 2.2 5.9 2,292,067
Soria, Joakim R 53 2.59 0.217 1.11 0.63 2.7 7.7 1,549,149
Mathis, Doug R 43 2.96 0.241 1.13 0.63 2.1 4.4 940,268
Sherrill, George L 41 2.51 0.217 1.12 0.48 2.8 6.2 1,150,691
Total / Avg   1354 2.58 0.228 1.11 0.49 2.5 6.4 41,032,896
                   
                   
schwarze Throws IP162 ERC# OAV# WHIP# HR9# BB9# K9# Salary
Lee, Cliff L 232 3.19 0.270 1.22 0.48 1.6 5.4 5,774,723
Lincecum, Tim R 225 2.05 0.208 1.04 0.31 2.6 7.0 8,586,876
Jimenez, Ubaldo R 218 2.92 0.231 1.22 0.42 3.4 5.9 6,518,505
Pineiro, Joel R 214 2.89 0.270 1.14 0.36 1.1 3.7 5,618,259
Bailey, Andrew R 83 1.32 0.164 0.86 0.39 2.5 6.9 3,904,495
Bedard, Erik L 83 2.85 0.209 1.17 0.64 3.6 6.8 2,302,642
White, Sean R 64 2.15 0.212 1.07 0.30 2.7 3.4 2,042,890
Garcia, Freddy R 56 2.98 0.257 1.19 0.47 1.9 4.8 1,301,408
Adams, Mike R 37 0.62 0.112 0.59 0.19 1.9 7.2 2,569,430
Martinez, Joe R 30 7.32 0.352 1.93 0.98 3.5 4.6 214,351
Sadowski, Ryan R 28 4.51 0.266 1.58 0.50 5.2 4.4 402,863
Tazawa, Junichi R 25 8.82 0.373 2.04 1.11 3.1 3.9 200,000
Gosling, Mike L 25 5.75 0.289 1.62 1.45 3.9 4.0 204,042
Total / Avg   1322 2.91 0.242 1.17 0.45 2.4 5.5 39,640,484
Excluding mopups   1242 2.63 0.234 1.13 0.40 2.4 5.6 39,022,091
10/19/2013 11:15 PM
Draft Strategy

Coming in with the #2 pick, I knew that my pick would be a solid starting pitcher.  Having allotted $41M max for the pitching staff and wanting at least 1330 non mopup innings I knew I couldn't spend a lot more than $35,000/IP on more than a very few pitchers.  I usually like a solid bullpen, but after looking at the possibilities I knew that wasn't going to happen.

I wanted Molina at catcher, but was hoping to get him in round 3.  When that couldn't happen, I didn't think about that position until well into the draft.  I like Paulino but IRod is there because his arm isn't terrible and he has plenty of PA's.

Butler at 1B was someone I had looked at from the beginning because of his doubles and low cost.  But 1B had several useful options that were cheaper so I didn't worry about that until late.

Roberts at 2b was also someone I wanted early as he has decent speed , average, and can hit doubles.  Plus he has over 700 PA for under $5M.

Love Michael Young at 3B except that he can't play everyday.  I wanted him all along.

SS is a position that I really concentrate on, but the selections were either too expensive for my tastes or the fielding wasn't what I wanted.  I had to shift gears here somewhat in midstream, but I'm not too worried about the position.

OF...whew!  I thought Abreu was a bargain because he has somewhat decent speed, draws some walks, doesn't kill you on defense, and full time for under $4.5M.  I might have taken him too early, but still glad I got him.  Makakis is every day with over 700 PA and can hit doubles for under $4.4M.  Prado will play there for most of his PA, but will help at 3B.  I loved getting Hairston and Brantley to finish out my PA in the OF, plus can PH.  Speaking of PH, I love Carp for the price.

Pitching Staff - Boy, do we give up the long ball!  I am happy to have 1350+ IP of non mopup, but will have to micro manage the staff a bit off and on.  

THE GOOD:  I was pretty happy with my team until I saw the stats that schwarze put up for each team.  The good:  decent average, pretty decent fielding, plenty of PA, most hitters can hit doubles.  Pitching...the WHIP is decent, but the HRA is worse than I had hoped. (But hey, it was 2009!)

The BAD:  Lack of OBP, plus not as much speed as I like, range isn't very good, plus the bullpen is thin. 

W-L prediction:  This is a very solid group of owners...I'm going to be optimistic and say 82-80.

It was a fun and quick draft for not being on the clock...great job everyone!
10/22/2013 4:22 AM
Draft Strategy

Things went mostly as I expected, so there wasn't a huge amount to report. The aim was to get a fairly boring team - lots of OBP, pitchers who don't give up walks, and don't spend too much money on HR that will be wasted against the 1909 teams. And I mostly did that. There were a handful of setbacks.

Like everyone, I guess, I wanted Molina at C. The fallback options are OK, but not great. Really thought about Victor Martinez at C, but his arm is so weak, that it would have been scary, especially against the 1909 teams. So Martin is fine; B arm looks OK for this league.

I was hoping to get Jarred Washburn so I'd only have to draft 3 SP. When that didn't happen I had to juggle a little bit.

Aybar and Zobrist is a really nice middle infield, but they are both a bit short of PAs. That's OK I thought, there's a great Omar Vizquel season, and no one will take a backup middle IF particularly early. Oops. Andres Blanco is an OK fallback, but not what I'd planned.

And the Vizquel pick led to a run on $6M pitchers. So I had to juggle a bit. My first plan was to slip back to get one of Lester or Becket, but I couldn't see how to spend enough $ to get to the salary cap if I did that. So I cut back a little on my plans - I had thought about taking the super-expensive Beltran - and budget for Haren. It was pretty clear by that time that no one else was going to take him, so I figured I'd leave him for round 25, and move to the top of the draft board.

Haren isn't great value, but he might be OK. The big thing is his hitting. If he ends up with 8 more hits than the average pitcher, it will be a bad deal for me. If he ends up with 20 more, it will be great. The final number will probably be closer to 8 than 20, but you never know.

I think most people take too many IP in high K leagues. If I'd been brave, I would have tried to get by with 1250 IP, which I think would be enough. As it is, I'll avoid micromanaging, and hopefully be able to get the matchups I want.

There are really only 2 things I dislike about the team, and they go together a bit. One is the high HR rate. I don't think with the hitters in this league that will kill me, but I'll clearly lose a few games that way. And I have a little worse outfield defense than I like. But otherwise, this is basically the kind of team I usually run, which isn't what I always get in a draft league. I even ended up with platoons in 1B and LF, which means I'll have good hitters off the bench without wasting a roster spot. So that could have been worse.

My idea behind picking 2009 was that it had lots and lots of good players, at every position, without having many great players who could distort the draft. I think that's basically how it has played out. I'm hoping this division collectively ends up well above .500, because we'll be playing teams who have really bad players in key roles.
10/22/2013 9:57 AM
Draft Strategy:

Actually, I don't want to give up some nuggets of info, because it might actually apply to the franchise draft too. However, I think I can divulge most of my strategy. In general, I wanted a team that had balance on offense, with no weaknesses anywhere. I believed there would be more homers than usual, but I didn't want to sell out on homers (although I really did consider taking Uggla at 2B and Reynolds at 3B), because, as brianjw said, the 1909 league was going to depress homers somewhat. However... in our own division and in the other modern league division, I think there will be more homers than usual, so I wanted to be part of that. And conversely, I wanted to keep the homers given up by my pitchers to a reasonable minimum.

I didn't really want Molina at all. I wanted all along a part-time catching situation with one guy who has a great arm, and the other who can hit somewhat, but doesn't have a noodle arm. Hannigan was the perfect 1st half of that, and I had targeted Wieters as the 2nd half, but as it turned out, I could afford Ruiz, who is a bit better.

I felt Adam Dunn was a significant bargain at 1B, although for obvious reasons, but I wanted those homers, walks, and ABs for a price under 5mil so I took him early. It looks like I could have probably waited on that pick.

After my first pick of Carpenter, I employed the only time when I used the gambit of drafting someone low-priced to move to the front of the draft; I drafted Washburn, allowing me to draft Vasquez (or King Felix, either was fine with me). Then, I didn't worry too much about pitching for awhile.

In general, I like my team. It definitely has balance. I clearly have more homers than anyone in the division, but I have several players who can run too, including Choo who is an excellent percentage base-stealer. My AVG and OBP are good, I think. My pitchers collectively have numbers that I'm satisfied with, including the homers allowed.

I will probably update this post later, after the franchise draft is more underway. There are some other strategies I didn't mention.

I do appreciate that we drafted 2009, after looking at some of the other drafts. Thanks for that brianjw!
10/22/2013 12:30 PM
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