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11/15/2013 2:18 PM
Again, the definition of value, you still don't understand.  It's fine.


11/15/2013 2:19 PM
11/15/2013 2:19 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
No other team can have Cabrera.

The award is most valuable player in the league. Not most valuable player that is also available to whatever random team we're talking about.

 
11/15/2013 2:20 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
Exactly.  I don't have the $50.  So it has no value to me. 
11/15/2013 2:22 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 2:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
No other team can have Cabrera.

The award is most valuable player in the league. Not most valuable player that is also available to whatever random team we're talking about.

 
Cabrera

Value to:
DET - LOTS!
LAA - None.
NYY - None.
NYM - None.
etc
Add it together - answer is LOTS!

Trout
Value to:
DET - None.
LAA - A Lot.
NYY - None.
NYM - None.

Add it together - A Lot.

LOTS! > A Lot. Cabrera wins.

YAYYYY
 
11/15/2013 2:22 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
Exactly.  I don't have the $50.  So it has no value to me. 
*******.

In this scenario, who is the "I?"

The Tigers? The Red Sox? The Angels? The Astros? The American League? Major League Baseball?

 
11/15/2013 2:24 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
Exactly.  I don't have the $50.  So it has no value to me. 
*******.

In this scenario, who is the "I?"

The Tigers? The Red Sox? The Angels? The Astros? The American League? Major League Baseball?

 
The team he plays for, obviously.
11/15/2013 2:25 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 2:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
No other team can have Cabrera.

The award is most valuable player in the league. Not most valuable player that is also available to whatever random team we're talking about.

 
Cabrera

Value to:
DET - LOTS!
LAA - None.
NYY - None.
NYM - None.
etc
Add it together - answer is LOTS!

Trout
Value to:
DET - None.
LAA - A Lot.
NYY - None.
NYM - None.

Add it together - A Lot.

LOTS! > A Lot. Cabrera wins.

YAYYYY
 
Let's go back to your analogy:

$25 donation
Value to:
You: $25
Me: $25
Anyone: $25

$50 donation
Value to:
You: $50
Me: $50
Anyone: $50

The $50 is always more valuable than the $25, regardless of who has it.

 
11/15/2013 2:25 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Something I can't have has no value to me. 
Exactly.  I don't have the $50.  So it has no value to me. 
*******.

In this scenario, who is the "I?"

The Tigers? The Red Sox? The Angels? The Astros? The American League? Major League Baseball?

 
The team he plays for, obviously.
Who is he?
11/15/2013 2:25 PM
Why do I want the $50?
11/15/2013 2:26 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/15/2013 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 9:40:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/15/2013 8:24:00 AM (view original):
FWIW, a better case could have been made for Trout last year, as his team won 89 games; one more win than Cabrera's team.

This season, it's difficult to make a case for an "MVP" coming from a team with a losing record.
Sure. Trout having better teammates last year definitely made him more valuable than he was this year, when his teammates sucked.
This is funny.

I knew what BL was trying to do when he started this thread.   Now I wonder if tec knows and is sucking BL into the argument that BL desperately wants or if tec has been sucked into BL's argument unwittingly.

Only they know.
I'll add burnsy to the list and myself to a lesser extent because I've only peeked down the rabbit hole.  I'll travel no further.
11/15/2013 2:28 PM
It's just amazing that BL can be fairly intelligent at times but be unable to grasp the simpliest of concepts at others.  It's fascinating.
11/15/2013 2:31 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Why do I want the $50?
Because it's more valuable than the $25.
11/15/2013 2:31 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:28:00 PM (view original):
It's just amazing that BL can be fairly intelligent at times but be unable to grasp the simpliest of concepts at others.  It's fascinating.
I'm saying the same thing about you right now.

$50>$25.

It's more valuable.
11/15/2013 2:32 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2013 2:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2013 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Why do I want the $50?
Because it's more valuable than the $25.
Why do I want any amount of cash? It looks like green paper.
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