Posted by bad_luck on 11/19/2013 10:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/19/2013 9:06:00 PM (view original):We agree, at least to an extent, that it's dumb to evaluate a player's individual performance based on the performance of his teammates. My entire point is that we shouldn't suffer stupidity. There's no reason to tie the MVP to the standings but it's done that way because that's the way it has always been done. It doesn't have to be that way but if no one ever says "that's the wrong way to do this," it will never change.
Posted by bad_luck on 11/19/2013 6:25:00 PM (view original):The funny thing is, is that I agree with you. You keep forgetting that. So i never said "thats wrong." You did, countless times, but I didnt.
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/19/2013 6:23:00 PM (view original):Me: x is a dumb way to do something
Acknowledge the other argument. And counter the points someone else made, rather than repeating yourself and ignoring them.
Me: "some people see value as x."
You: "no, that's wrong."
You: that's wrong
My only point was that "value" can mean different things to different people. You argued, for a year, that that isn't true, that value has one definition. Pretty much by just saying "no, that's wrong."
I'm not delusional. Not only is this extremely unimportant, I'm also not changing anyone's mind. But I find it interesting and it's fun pulling mike into an argument he claims to not have any interest in participating.
You want the award to be a "best player" award. Not everyone has that view, because the award doesnt have a specific definition. I'm not sure why you find it so difficult to comprehend that some look at the award as "Most Valuable (to their respective team) Award." If you're asked to vote on an award, any award, and there are few, if any, guidelines, no 2 people are going to look at it the same way, and I would be understanding about it. You are not, which I find odd. Again, it's odd considering there are VERY loose guidelines.
And yes, you find it fun because you get a rise whenever you bring this up. It's troll-ish, to a point.