Posted by bad_luck on 12/4/2013 3:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/4/2013 3:00:00 PM (view original):So you'll accept WAR when it backs up your argument?
Posted by bad_luck on 12/4/2013 1:32:00 PM (view original):Even your beloved "WAR, ************!!!!" ***** all over Rick Monday in comparison to Bernie Williams.
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2013 1:31:00 PM (view original):Why would that be fucktarded?
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2013 12:21:00 PM (view original):I believe that's correct. Monday = Williams is fucktard area.
Critical thinking makes us appreciate Rick Monday more than we originally did. When you don't think critically, you think "DER 2 ALL STAR GAMES HE BLEW." You're doing the opposite. Someone suggests that Rick Monday was just as valuable in the 70s as Bernie was in the 90s and your response is essentially "you're a fucktard."
Please explain why that is?
I haven't looked but I'm guessing it has to do with the lengths of their careers. WAR is cumulative and OPS+ is a rate stat.
No, I'm not using WAR to back up my argument.
I'm asking you why your beloved WAR does not back up yours?
Since you started this with OPS+, a purely offensive statistic, by equating Monday's career 125 OPS+ and Williams' career OPS+ and concluding they had the same offensive value throughout their career, let's just stick with oWAR.
Monday's BEST season oWAR was 5.1, His second best was 4.2 (many times). Williams matched or exceeded 5.1 oWAR 8 times.
Why does one stat say they're the same, and the other say quite conclusively, they're not?