Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 4:12:00 PM (view original):Dave Kingman hit 400 homers when 400 homers was fanfuckingtastic. Great player?
Chris Davis had a fantastic year, finished 3rd in MVP voting. Adam Dunn will probably hit 500+ homers. Ryan Howard was great in that time period - he won an MVP. You make it sound like striking out is a good thing.
Dunn's career OBP is 65 points better than Kingman's. Career .367 OBP, .494 SLG, 124 OPS+ is maybe not great, but it's pretty damn good, even for a guy who can't field. Especially if it does include the service time to have, so far, 448 HRs.
Career for Kingman is a .302 OBP and .478 SLG, 115 OPS+. Given that OBP is at least 60 or 65% more valuable than SLG, that's a pretty huge difference. I think Kingman gets underrated now because of all the statnerds pointing to how overrated he was in his day, and before that just from the discussions erupting from his being the first 400 HR guy to miss the HOF. Dude like that, in a lower HR environment than what followed, was a valuable player. Probably should bat no higher than 6th or 7th because of the OBP, but still can provide a lot of value in that spot.